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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 8577828" data-attributes="member: 6988941"><p>The 5e designers experimented with cross-class subclasses in the Mages of Strixhaven Unearthed Arcana (ultimately dropped before the book), so you might want to check that out. Ultimately I think making a subclass that was actually reasonably balanced for all the classes in a way remotely suitable <em>for publication</em> isn't really feasible because they all get somewhat different things from their subclasses (every Barbarian gets a while raging effect, every Bard gets something else they can do with their inspirations, every Cleric and Paladin gets an alternate use for channel divinity). It would need to have lots of "if you are a Paladin or Cleric you know these spells and have them prepared at all time" contingent clauses, which is why they don't have such things for official content.</p><p></p><p>Very early on in the 5e cycle they also released a UA with a single prestige class (the "Rune Scribe"), and some preliminary guidelines on how 5e prestige classes might be implemented. Honestly I think your own ideas based on experience with 3.5 prestige classes will get you further, but it might be worth a look.</p><p></p><p>One possibility would be to have "prestige subclasses" that replaced subclass features for higher levels, while leaving people's base class intact. The "signature features" of subclasses usually come at the first level they get them, and at the latest by class level 7 (where a few of the Fighter subclasses really come online). Replacing the subclass features they get at higher levels would generally not be too disruptive. At the very least by that point all the subclasses have given out all the subclass features that are balanced radically differently for different classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 8577828, member: 6988941"] The 5e designers experimented with cross-class subclasses in the Mages of Strixhaven Unearthed Arcana (ultimately dropped before the book), so you might want to check that out. Ultimately I think making a subclass that was actually reasonably balanced for all the classes in a way remotely suitable [I]for publication[/I] isn't really feasible because they all get somewhat different things from their subclasses (every Barbarian gets a while raging effect, every Bard gets something else they can do with their inspirations, every Cleric and Paladin gets an alternate use for channel divinity). It would need to have lots of "if you are a Paladin or Cleric you know these spells and have them prepared at all time" contingent clauses, which is why they don't have such things for official content. Very early on in the 5e cycle they also released a UA with a single prestige class (the "Rune Scribe"), and some preliminary guidelines on how 5e prestige classes might be implemented. Honestly I think your own ideas based on experience with 3.5 prestige classes will get you further, but it might be worth a look. One possibility would be to have "prestige subclasses" that replaced subclass features for higher levels, while leaving people's base class intact. The "signature features" of subclasses usually come at the first level they get them, and at the latest by class level 7 (where a few of the Fighter subclasses really come online). Replacing the subclass features they get at higher levels would generally not be too disruptive. At the very least by that point all the subclasses have given out all the subclass features that are balanced radically differently for different classes. [/QUOTE]
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