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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 4108828" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>I wouldn't allow that feat either. But that feat is _much_ stronger than sudden persist+divine power! Firstly, Divine power caps out at your level, meaning that its BAB enhancement is only works for those that don't have full bab anyway. Secondly, the strength increase is an enhancement bonus, which doesn't stack with strength enhancing items - which most medium level fighters will have (although +6 is indeed pretty good). Unfortunaly for the caster, you can't just take levels of barbarian or whatnot to add extra strength since that would reduce your caster level and thus reduce your BAB under divine power. Divine power does not increase your size category.</p><p></p><p>Then, the Persist feat has a few other crucial weaknesses. Firstly, it costs two feats with the above write up, since you're required to have extend spell as well (an otherwise odd choice for a cleric), and you must be a full-level caster to benefit. It costs you a spell slot. Finally, and not irrelevantly, your abilities can be dispelled by a plain dispel magic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think a +1 bab feat which caps out at BAB equal to character level for full casters would be weak. It'd be boring for normal fighter types, but with a few prereq's (specifically being high level) not overpowering. It's not much stronger than weapon focus, since your extra attacks are so much less likely to hit, esp. at high level - and when you're charging or otherwise only making one attack the effects are very similar. Not that I think a +1 bab feat is a good idea, mind you, just that it's not horribly broken given the right requirements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 4108828, member: 51942"] I wouldn't allow that feat either. But that feat is _much_ stronger than sudden persist+divine power! Firstly, Divine power caps out at your level, meaning that its BAB enhancement is only works for those that don't have full bab anyway. Secondly, the strength increase is an enhancement bonus, which doesn't stack with strength enhancing items - which most medium level fighters will have (although +6 is indeed pretty good). Unfortunaly for the caster, you can't just take levels of barbarian or whatnot to add extra strength since that would reduce your caster level and thus reduce your BAB under divine power. Divine power does not increase your size category. Then, the Persist feat has a few other crucial weaknesses. Firstly, it costs two feats with the above write up, since you're required to have extend spell as well (an otherwise odd choice for a cleric), and you must be a full-level caster to benefit. It costs you a spell slot. Finally, and not irrelevantly, your abilities can be dispelled by a plain dispel magic. I think a +1 bab feat which caps out at BAB equal to character level for full casters would be weak. It'd be boring for normal fighter types, but with a few prereq's (specifically being high level) not overpowering. It's not much stronger than weapon focus, since your extra attacks are so much less likely to hit, esp. at high level - and when you're charging or otherwise only making one attack the effects are very similar. Not that I think a +1 bab feat is a good idea, mind you, just that it's not horribly broken given the right requirements. [/QUOTE]
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