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<blockquote data-quote="dirkformica" data-source="post: 4111606" data-attributes="member: 49178">This is a more specific case than your general DMM Cleric, but when you throw Anspell, and its greater brother into the mix via Spell Domain (Spell Compendium) and/or the Initiate of Mystra feat from Player's Guide to Faerun, you can get some pretty dangerous combos.&nbsp; Anyspell gets you Persistent Wraithstrike (SC) which is probably better most of the time than Divine Power, especially if you have Power Attack.&nbsp; Greater Anyspell allows for Persistent Draconic Polymorph (Draconomicon) for all kinds of silly shapes.&nbsp; Throw in being an Outsider (from Otherworldly feat from PGtF, or natural race, or spells like Fiendform [SC]) and things can get even crazier.Of course, what that exercise really points out are the potentially overpowered natures of those spells more than DMM or of a feat like Sudden Persist.&nbsp; Also, in some ways, at least at higher levels, you can gain a similar level of power potentially with the Leadership feat and an Incantatrix (PGtF) Cohort.&nbsp; It just needs to succeed on some potentially high Spellcraft DCs to Persist your spells for you.&nbsp; Spellscales from Races of the Dragon make especially good Incantatrix Cohorts, by the way.If there was a feat like Sudden Persist, it would definitely need to use Sudden Quicken as its model and require all of the other Sudden Feats at least as prereqs.&nbsp; It would probably also need a few more simply because 1 free Persistent spell per day is probably more powerful than 1 free Quickened spell per day.Edited to add: also this has mostly been viewing the feat through the perspective of a Divine caster, but any caster could theoretically take the feat.&nbsp; This means you should take a look at all the Arcane spells and determine how many could cause problems (such as the Wraithstrike and Draconic Polymorph above.)&nbsp; Druids would probably also love to have Persistent Bite of the Werebear all day to compliment their Wildshape ability too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dirkformica, post: 4111606, member: 49178"] This is a more specific case than your general DMM Cleric, but when you throw Anspell, and its greater brother into the mix via Spell Domain (Spell Compendium) and/or the Initiate of Mystra feat from Player's Guide to Faerun, you can get some pretty dangerous combos. Anyspell gets you Persistent Wraithstrike (SC) which is probably better most of the time than Divine Power, especially if you have Power Attack. Greater Anyspell allows for Persistent Draconic Polymorph (Draconomicon) for all kinds of silly shapes. Throw in being an Outsider (from Otherworldly feat from PGtF, or natural race, or spells like Fiendform [SC]) and things can get even crazier. Of course, what that exercise really points out are the potentially overpowered natures of those spells more than DMM or of a feat like Sudden Persist. Also, in some ways, at least at higher levels, you can gain a similar level of power potentially with the Leadership feat and an Incantatrix (PGtF) Cohort. It just needs to succeed on some potentially high Spellcraft DCs to Persist your spells for you. Spellscales from Races of the Dragon make especially good Incantatrix Cohorts, by the way. If there was a feat like Sudden Persist, it would definitely need to use Sudden Quicken as its model and require all of the other Sudden Feats at least as prereqs. It would probably also need a few more simply because 1 free Persistent spell per day is probably more powerful than 1 free Quickened spell per day. Edited to add: also this has mostly been viewing the feat through the perspective of a Divine caster, but any caster could theoretically take the feat. This means you should take a look at all the Arcane spells and determine how many could cause problems (such as the Wraithstrike and Draconic Polymorph above.) Druids would probably also love to have Persistent Bite of the Werebear all day to compliment their Wildshape ability too. [/QUOTE]

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