JRRNeiklot
First Post
No. Because nothing is either taken or stolen.
Suggestion for compromise on Wizard's PDFs
- Thread starter Bugleyman
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No. Because nothing is either taken or stolen.
Nikosandros
Golden Procrastinator
I'm afraid so... he got that nasty color after drinking some "water" from a stream in Morgul Vale.
Raven Crowking
First Post
Same problem; copyright infringment =/= theft. I will certainly agree that there is a relationship between the two crimes, but they are not the same thing.
RC
Scribble
First Post
Because it's been in use this way since before copyright law technically existed.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
MGM vs. Grokster: "Deliberate unlawful copying is no less an unlawful taking of property than garden-variety theft."
Deprivation is not an essential element in every kind of theft. For example, there is a type of theft called theft of service. It often comes up in situations where, for example, you splice into your neighbor's cable get all their cable stations for free, You didn't actually diminish the available supply of cable TV or your neighbor. But you're still acquiring something of value without paying for it, and you're doing it without the seller's permission.
It's a type of theft I think. If people don't like using the blanket general term theft, they can use an alternate subset-term for this kind of theft. But, it's still a for of theft in my opinion.
Deprivation is not an essential element in every kind of theft. For example, there is a type of theft called theft of service. It often comes up in situations where, for example, you splice into your neighbor's cable get all their cable stations for free, You didn't actually diminish the available supply of cable TV or your neighbor. But you're still acquiring something of value without paying for it, and you're doing it without the seller's permission.
It's a type of theft I think. If people don't like using the blanket general term theft, they can use an alternate subset-term for this kind of theft. But, it's still a for of theft in my opinion.
Krensky
First Post
Dowling v. United States
The Grokster case affirms that unlawful copying is as much a crime as theft is, but it carefully avoids calling it theft. Mainly because the Supreme Court already said that copyright infringement was not theft.
Doesn't make it legal, ethical, or moral; but it's not theft.
rogueattorney
Adventurer
Regarding downloading...
When you download something from a server, you are making a new copy. Before there was a copy on the server. Now there's a copy on the server and on your hard drive.
When you download something from a server, you are making a new copy. Before there was a copy on the server. Now there's a copy on the server and on your hard drive.
Dire Bare
Legend
Did he actually make an effort?
I know I get sucked into things I think I should simply avoid. That's why I responded in this thread in the first place.
We all do, we all do. If I only had a nickel each time I thought, "I should really stop reading this thread and not post, but . . . ."
jaerdaph
#UkraineStrong
"It's like a train wreck. I just can't... look... away... "
or maybe
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Raven Crowking
First Post
I think it was more of a "I'm not going to get involved in this debate, but I am going to try to get the last word" sort of thing. (Which we also all do.)
If he had simply ended with "I'm not going to get involved in this debate" there would be nothing to reply to, and consequently no further discussion.
RC
If he had simply ended with "I'm not going to get involved in this debate" there would be nothing to reply to, and consequently no further discussion.
RC
