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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 3099763" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>You can TRY. However, here's the lines that will usually bedevil you:</p><p></p><p>"...The suggestion must be worded in such a manner as to make the activity sound reasonable. Asking the creature to do some obviously harmful act automatically negates the effect of the spell..."</p><p></p><p>Attacking and killing one's allies is rarely "reasonble," and it is usually construed as "harmful." Thus...wouldn't work.</p><p></p><p>However, if you know your foes you might be able to take advantage of existing bad blood. Evil critters rarely get along. And while just plain "not getting along" isn't a call to battle, if you know the troll and the salamander noble HATE each other, you could give the troll a suggestion like, "The salamander will kill you as soon as we're dead; kill him first!" That seems more reasonable given the troll's perspective, and if the salamander's going to attack him, then attacking it first certainly isn't harmful.</p><p></p><p>As a GM, I'd be more inclined to let a cleverly worded Suggestion that takes advantage of existing attitudes push the limits of the rules...especially against relatively stupid creatures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 3099763, member: 4936"] You can TRY. However, here's the lines that will usually bedevil you: "...The suggestion must be worded in such a manner as to make the activity sound reasonable. Asking the creature to do some obviously harmful act automatically negates the effect of the spell..." Attacking and killing one's allies is rarely "reasonble," and it is usually construed as "harmful." Thus...wouldn't work. However, if you know your foes you might be able to take advantage of existing bad blood. Evil critters rarely get along. And while just plain "not getting along" isn't a call to battle, if you know the troll and the salamander noble HATE each other, you could give the troll a suggestion like, "The salamander will kill you as soon as we're dead; kill him first!" That seems more reasonable given the troll's perspective, and if the salamander's going to attack him, then attacking it first certainly isn't harmful. As a GM, I'd be more inclined to let a cleverly worded Suggestion that takes advantage of existing attitudes push the limits of the rules...especially against relatively stupid creatures. [/QUOTE]
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