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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3102227" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>NO. No. And once more no.</p><p></p><p>Suggestion is a spell that any DM needs to keep a tight rein on otherwise it ends up being a 3rd level wish spell.</p><p></p><p>Thanee's suggestion (“Look, you are losing, anyways. Help us kill them and you can walk away free and unharmed.”) might work, provided that the subject of the spell had reason to believe that the PCs would allow him to walk away free and unharmed if he changed sides. If the PC is the dread pirate Roberts who never takes prisoners (or so the story goes) and leaves no survivors, then it's not going to work. Ditto if the PCs have slaughtered surrendering enemies before or in sight of the NPC. On the other hand, if allowing turncoats to leave free and unharmed is a part of the PCs' reputation (or their culture's reputation in the case of PCs without significant or known personal reputations) then it's a reasonable suggestion--as long as the NPC's side actually appears to be losing. (If they have suffered no casualties and have dropped two PCs, again, it's not reasonable).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3102227, member: 3146"] NO. No. And once more no. Suggestion is a spell that any DM needs to keep a tight rein on otherwise it ends up being a 3rd level wish spell. Thanee's suggestion (“Look, you are losing, anyways. Help us kill them and you can walk away free and unharmed.”) might work, provided that the subject of the spell had reason to believe that the PCs would allow him to walk away free and unharmed if he changed sides. If the PC is the dread pirate Roberts who never takes prisoners (or so the story goes) and leaves no survivors, then it's not going to work. Ditto if the PCs have slaughtered surrendering enemies before or in sight of the NPC. On the other hand, if allowing turncoats to leave free and unharmed is a part of the PCs' reputation (or their culture's reputation in the case of PCs without significant or known personal reputations) then it's a reasonable suggestion--as long as the NPC's side actually appears to be losing. (If they have suffered no casualties and have dropped two PCs, again, it's not reasonable). [/QUOTE]
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