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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3103686" data-attributes="member: 31734"><p>It's two suggestions because otherwise the first clause is knowingly false. "My friends are doppelgangers? The hell you say, fiend!" The action clause then becomes entirely unreasonable.</p><p></p><p>Are there any examples in the PH that allow multiple clauses as part of the suggestion? I've always ruled that it should be worded as "I suggest you ..." without any prefacing. The prefacing part that you and others allow is unsupported by the spell description IMO.</p><p></p><p>Note, however, that it is still possible to include such lies in the suggestion, but the lies might be detected thus rendering the suggestion unreasonable. For example, "I suggest you kill that lying doppelganger half-orc with the two-handed greataxe." This is a valid suggestion IMO, but it's very possible to fail as the doppelganger accusation is not guaranteed success like you assume it to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3103686, member: 31734"] It's two suggestions because otherwise the first clause is knowingly false. "My friends are doppelgangers? The hell you say, fiend!" The action clause then becomes entirely unreasonable. Are there any examples in the PH that allow multiple clauses as part of the suggestion? I've always ruled that it should be worded as "I suggest you ..." without any prefacing. The prefacing part that you and others allow is unsupported by the spell description IMO. Note, however, that it is still possible to include such lies in the suggestion, but the lies might be detected thus rendering the suggestion unreasonable. For example, "I suggest you kill that lying doppelganger half-orc with the two-handed greataxe." This is a valid suggestion IMO, but it's very possible to fail as the doppelganger accusation is not guaranteed success like you assume it to be. [/QUOTE]
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