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<blockquote data-quote="AvarielAvenger" data-source="post: 265041" data-attributes="member: 5351"><p></p><p></p><p>Except, in the instance I used, let's say the Fighter needed to defeat that creature to finish x quest. Well, tough, guess he should've been a Wizard, Sorcerer or Monk in your campaign.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, I don't understand this obsession some DMs seem to have with not allowing players to buy magic items at a shop. It's a commodity like any other, and if there is a profit in it, it will be traded in. In fact, one of my favorite things about 3E is it encourages this kind of shop to exist. </p><p></p><p>Now, unlike in 2E, you no longer have the pile of useless +1 Swords that for some reason no one will ever buy, sitting around in your keep/tower collecting dust.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excuse me? Do you think I never use opponents that have power that exceeds or is lower than my parties simply because I recognize the need for balance in a game? It's just so lame to make a faulty assumption like that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What does having balance have to do with that? I think it lessens the fun of the game if certain classes are "better" than others, and in a world like yours, that's what's going to happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, every class is close enough in power that they can fight a creature that doesn't play to their strengths, which is what I like. And lessening the amount of magical items changes that, which I dissaprove of. Also, the CR system has it's problems, but I vastly prefer it to the "this looks good, I'll throw it at the party" system of 2E.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh really? I'd love to fight you with Tordek, and you controlling Mialee, to prove you wrong. You don't need to be a "tricked out fighter" to defeat a Wizard. You can make one that is supreme at it, and very hard for any Wizard to beat, but it's hardly neccessary to traverse that path of development to be able to defeat Wizards. </p><p></p><p>Wizards are too weak to survive even one FRA from a Fighter, and a properly built Fighter (and this includes Tordek) will be able to get close to deliver that FRA. This is not 2E, as I said before. Wizards are not the gods of one on one combat anymore, nor is any other class. All have a relatively equal chance to beat the others in combat. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. If you want to continue the discussion, go ahead and post a topic in the General RPG Forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AvarielAvenger, post: 265041, member: 5351"] [B][/b] Except, in the instance I used, let's say the Fighter needed to defeat that creature to finish x quest. Well, tough, guess he should've been a Wizard, Sorcerer or Monk in your campaign. [b][/b] Personally, I don't understand this obsession some DMs seem to have with not allowing players to buy magic items at a shop. It's a commodity like any other, and if there is a profit in it, it will be traded in. In fact, one of my favorite things about 3E is it encourages this kind of shop to exist. Now, unlike in 2E, you no longer have the pile of useless +1 Swords that for some reason no one will ever buy, sitting around in your keep/tower collecting dust. [b][/b] Excuse me? Do you think I never use opponents that have power that exceeds or is lower than my parties simply because I recognize the need for balance in a game? It's just so lame to make a faulty assumption like that. [b][/b] What does having balance have to do with that? I think it lessens the fun of the game if certain classes are "better" than others, and in a world like yours, that's what's going to happen. [b][/b] But, every class is close enough in power that they can fight a creature that doesn't play to their strengths, which is what I like. And lessening the amount of magical items changes that, which I dissaprove of. Also, the CR system has it's problems, but I vastly prefer it to the "this looks good, I'll throw it at the party" system of 2E. [b][/b] Oh really? I'd love to fight you with Tordek, and you controlling Mialee, to prove you wrong. You don't need to be a "tricked out fighter" to defeat a Wizard. You can make one that is supreme at it, and very hard for any Wizard to beat, but it's hardly neccessary to traverse that path of development to be able to defeat Wizards. Wizards are too weak to survive even one FRA from a Fighter, and a properly built Fighter (and this includes Tordek) will be able to get close to deliver that FRA. This is not 2E, as I said before. Wizards are not the gods of one on one combat anymore, nor is any other class. All have a relatively equal chance to beat the others in combat. Sure. If you want to continue the discussion, go ahead and post a topic in the General RPG Forum. [/QUOTE]
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