Summon Monster Questions

[hong]

Right, that's it, I'm banning summoning from my game.

 

[mikebr99]

Right, that's it, I'm banning summoning from my game.

heh... just have everyone walking around as a Paladin... or have 'protection from [insert alignment here]' spells. ymmv


Mike

 

[jgsugden]

In Masters of the Wild, there was a spell called adrenaline surge. It is worth a look for summoners.

In addition, many DMs have adopted a house rule regarding spell focus:

When selecting spell focus, you may select one of the following options:

1.) Gain a +1 to the DC of spells you cast from this school,
2.) Gain 1 bonus spell per day of the highest level spells you can cast. This may only be used to memorize a spell from this school, or
3.) Increase your caster level for all spells from this school by 1 level.

Adopting this house rule makes spell focus useful for all schools of magic, not just evocation, enchantment, necromancy and transmutation.

 

[Korak]

Well, the summoned creatures may not be able to use any of their own teleport abilities, but nothing says that the PCs can't teleport them

 

[Epametheus]

For an arcane caster, Spell Focus (Conjuration) would apply to the Planar Binding spells. Edit: Actually, there are several arcane conjuration spells with saves involved -- web, cloudkill, acid fog, etc.

The main disadvantage to the Summon Monster spells is that the caster sits there effectively shouting "hit me! hit me! hit me!" for an entire round; I just don't see a caster ever getting one of those spells off at higher levels in 3.5E.

But summoned monsters can't teleport now?

Heh. So much for a Lantern Archon teleporting around a portable hole.

Edit: +1 caster level? That's a fairly nice option for Evocation and Necromancy, too.

 

[0-hr]

mmmm, Grease...

Really though, Focus(Conjuration) is pretty much just their way of saying that Augment Summoning really costs two feats.

 

[allenw]

For a divine caster, Spell Focus (Conjuration) helps boost the saves vs. your Cause Wounds spells (or Cure Wounds, if you're fighting undead), among other things.

 

[Brother MacLaren]

For a divine caster, Spell Focus (Conjuration) helps boost the saves vs. your Cause Wounds spells (or Cure Wounds, if you're fighting undead), among other things.

I think Inflict Wounds is a Necromancy spell, but you are right in that Spell Focus (Conjuration) does increase the DC for the undead's save against a Cure Wounds or Heal spell. This actually does make the prereq feat somewhat useful for druids, since Cure Wounds is one of their relatively few anti-undead options (aside from just torching the things).

 

[Scion]

There is a sword and sorcery class that does good things, and a domain there that doubles duration.

Also, anything that increases caster level will work. there is an ioun stone and possibly the prayer bead.

 

[hong]

heh... just have everyone walking around as a Paladin...

Can't. I banned paladins.