Sumo Wrestler

eris404 · Oct 10, 2005

hmmm...that could be useful. I also wish I had complete warrior with me now.

OK, so what about equipment and magic items? There are the obvious choices (anything that grant a bonus to strength, for example), but what else would be good?

Tonguez · Oct 10, 2005

daBooj said:
besides a bull rush or a overrun, what would a sumo wrestler do? Isn't sumo simply trying to push your opponent out of a ring? I could see a sumo wrestler being fun to play, but I would hate to pay the upkeep!

Have you never played Street Fighter as Eddie Honda?

Remember that originally, Sumo was a brutal martial art that contained elements of boxing and wrestling and that Jujitsu is an offshoot of Sumo. So all the strikes, throws, kicks, locks and chokes of Jujitsu are legitimate for a Sumo wrestler. It was when it entered the imperial court that it become ritualised to resemble the Sumo wrestling we know today.

Anyway nothing else to add except to remeber that dexterity needs to be high (as well as Str and Con) and that kicks, slaps and throws are as important as bullrush.

Ranger REG · Oct 11, 2005

daBooj said:
besides a bull rush or a overrun, what would a sumo wrestler do? Isn't sumo simply trying to push your opponent out of a ring? I could see a sumo wrestler being fun to play, but I would hate to pay the upkeep!

To win the match, a sumotori must either push or lift his opponent outside the ring or bring the opponent to his knees.

There are also rituals involved, like the stamping of the feet (to call upon the gods to watch), the clapping of the hand (to show he is weaponless), and throwing salt into the ringt to purify (rid of evil spirits that may affect his match).

eris404 · Oct 11, 2005

Ranger REG said:
There are also rituals involved, like the stamping of the feet (to call upon the gods to watch), the clapping of the hand (to show he is weaponless), and throwing salt into the ringt to purify (rid of evil spirits that may affect his match).

Neat! In game terms, I think that's cool flavor, whether it translates ruleswise as certain kinds of skills (Knowledge(Religion)? Diplomacy?) or maybe another feat or maybe a ritual he could perform before a match or combat (Arcana Unearthed has some neat rules for small rituals). What do you think?

rowport · Oct 11, 2005

NimrodvanHall said:
the monk route is good, just make him high STR and high CON

maybe come up with a feat that has imp grapple as prerequisite and simulates the dwarven stable build ability.

There is a feat in a recent issue of Dragon called "Stocky" that does exactly that (+4 to resist bull rush, etc.).

eris404 · Oct 11, 2005

rowport said:
There is a feat in a recent issue of Dragon called "Stocky" that does exactly that (+4 to resist bull rush, etc.).

I don't suppose you'd happen to know which one, would you?

I do have Dragon magazine issues from the last three years or so, so I might just have to go through them tonight.

rowport · Oct 11, 2005

eris404 said:
I don't suppose you'd happen to know which one, would you? I do have Dragon magazine issues from the last three years or so, so I might just have to go through them tonight.

Heh! You got lucky; I have it clipped for my buddy's Grappling Monk to take in a couple of levels. Here it is:
Stocky:
+4 bonus to ability checks to resist being bull rushed or tripped when standing on the ground. (Dragon 324 p. 78)

PS - Now that I think about it, if you want the full stats for my friend's Grappling Monk I am sure he would not mind. Let me know, and I will post them.

eris404 · Oct 11, 2005

Hey, thanks for that, Rowport!

It would be neat to see the monk's stats, so please go ahead and post them. I'm going to try fighter and see how that goes - I'll post a draft soon.

rowport · Oct 11, 2005

eris404 said:
Hey, thanks for that, Rowport!

It would be neat to see the monk's stats, so please go ahead and post them. I'm going to try fighter and see how that goes - I'll post a draft soon.

I am glad that I could help! Here we go with the Drunk Monk...

(PS - The "Altanian" bit is from Wilderlands Campaign Setting; I included the details for ease of reverse-engineering.)

(PPS - I just noticed you are in Chicago- the next GameDay is coming up soon! Check the General Forum for more details...)

Dougal McDunna, Irish Lout (CR6)
Male Altanian Monk 6
LN Medium Humanoid (Human)
XP 17,185
Init +2; Senses Listen +3, Spot +3
Languages Altanian, Common

AC 18, Touch 16, Flatfooted 16; Dodge
HP 54 (6 HD)
Immune Non-Magical Diseases
Resist Evasion, Still Mind
Fort +12, Ref +7, Will +8 (+10 vs. Spells or Enchantments)

Speed 50’
Melee Unarmed Strike +8 (1d8+4 20/x2)
Melee Unarmed Strike +7/+7 (1d8+4/1d8+4 20/x2)
Ranged +1 Sling +7 (1d4+1 20/x3)
Base Atk +4; Grp +13
Atk Options Combat Reflexes (3 Attacks of Opportunity), Flurry of Blows, Improved Grapple, Improved Trip, Improved Unarmed Strike, Ki Strike (Magic)
Special Actions Track +12
Combat Gear Potion of Cure Light Wounds

Abilities STR 18, DEX 14, CON 17, INT 8, WIS 16, CHA 8
SQ Altanian Traits, Evasion, Purity of Body, Still Mind, Slow Fall 30’
Feats Combat Reflexes b, Dodge, Improved Grapple b, Improved Toughness, Improved Trip b, Improved Unarmed Strike b, Great Fortitude, Track b
Skills Balance +4, Climb +9, Jump +11, Survival +12, Swim +7, Tumble +11
Possessions Combat Gear plus +1 Sling, Bracers of Armor +1, Amulet of Natural Armor +1, Boots of the North, Rope of Climbing, Climber’s Kit, Backpack, Torches (2), Flint & Steel, Explorer’s outfit, 500 gp

Quote: “Kiss me blarney stone, me bonnie lassie.”

Tactics: Dougal likes to grab things. And squeeze. Hard. Otherwise, he drinks. A lot.

Altanian Traits: As an Altanian, Dougal has +2 Strength and +2 Constitution racial attribute bonuses and -2 Intelligence and -2 Charisma racial attribute penalties. He also gains the Track feat as a bonus feat. He has Knowledge (Nature), Handle Animal, and Survival as class skills. He gains a +2 racial bonus to Survival checks (already figured into the statistics given above). However, Altanians do not receive the normal human bonus of 4 skill points at first level, nor do they gain the 1 additional skill point at each additional level. Altanians do not feel the effects of age as other humans do.