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<blockquote data-quote="werk" data-source="post: 2256096" data-attributes="member: 29663">I think the key here is the adamantine weapon, which is pretty much a weapon-breaker material (+3000gp per weapon) This is what is making sunder 'too easy' for you.Yes, if you use the special material designed to ignore hardness, you are much better at breaking stuff.If we just examine sunder...AoO (moot because of improved sunder feat)Opposed attack roll.&nbsp; This could be a stopper, because you have to hit higher than your opponent, but again, the player will probably win most of time do to higher BAB and cheese.If you win, you deal damage to the weapon, etc.Longsword is hardness 10 and HP 5, so the question is, how often can you do 15 points of damage with a single attack?Longsword vs longsword you aren't going to be breaking anything without a crit or +7 Str bonus to damage.&nbsp; And I don't know if I'd allow crits on weapons/objects because it is an opposed roll, not an attack roll against AC.So what you are saying is that I should send a Frost Giant Fighter with improved sunder, and an adamantine greatsword against my party...then watch them cry?I think sunder is under utilized too, but I think they call that strategy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="werk, post: 2256096, member: 29663"] I think the key here is the adamantine weapon, which is pretty much a weapon-breaker material (+3000gp per weapon) This is what is making sunder 'too easy' for you. Yes, if you use the special material designed to ignore hardness, you are much better at breaking stuff. If we just examine sunder... AoO (moot because of improved sunder feat) Opposed attack roll. This could be a stopper, because you have to hit higher than your opponent, but again, the player will probably win most of time do to higher BAB and cheese. If you win, you deal damage to the weapon, etc. Longsword is hardness 10 and HP 5, so the question is, how often can you do 15 points of damage with a single attack? Longsword vs longsword you aren't going to be breaking anything without a crit or +7 Str bonus to damage. And I don't know if I'd allow crits on weapons/objects because it is an opposed roll, not an attack roll against AC. So what you are saying is that I should send a Frost Giant Fighter with improved sunder, and an adamantine greatsword against my party...then watch them cry? I think sunder is under utilized too, but I think they call that strategy. [/QUOTE]

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