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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 4391539" data-attributes="member: 1139">Sorry, I sort of feel responsible for this because if I had said it was unreasonable Matt wouldn't have done it.&nbsp; I wasn't sure but I did say it was a reasonable use of Countering and my reasoning was partly based on Ultimate Power (here's the entry for Telekinesis).This may be pushing (no pun intended) the Nullify (Force stuff) too far.&nbsp; But even if that were the case, Battle Bunny could presumably have used Extra Effort to power stunt to acquire a suitable enough power (a 1 pp/rank Nullify for to counter the Telekinesis, which would have led to the exact result that occurred, except that he wouldn't have been able to surge and KO Optic, having already used Extra Effort (this would be a fairly significant difference in the path of the fight, though).&nbsp; Wren may yet interpose on the Killer Bee attack, as I think he's in range to do so (and he's much more resistant to this attack at this point than Viridian).&nbsp; If it gets ret-conned that Bunny had to use Extra Effort to acquire a suitable enough power to counter the telekinesis (this I think is definitely reasonable given the descriptors involve) and Wren interposes on this attack for Viridian we'd still be in the fight at the base, admittedly probably not for long owing to being outnumbered and seriously outgunned (potential solution: Viridian Mind Controls Killer Bee and uses his disgusting offense against them).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 4391539, member: 1139"] Sorry, I sort of feel responsible for this because if I had said it was unreasonable Matt wouldn't have done it. I wasn't sure but I did say it was a reasonable use of Countering and my reasoning was partly based on Ultimate Power (here's the entry for Telekinesis). This may be pushing (no pun intended) the Nullify (Force stuff) too far. But even if that were the case, Battle Bunny could presumably have used Extra Effort to power stunt to acquire a suitable enough power (a 1 pp/rank Nullify for to counter the Telekinesis, which would have led to the exact result that occurred, except that he wouldn't have been able to surge and KO Optic, having already used Extra Effort (this would be a fairly significant difference in the path of the fight, though). Wren may yet interpose on the Killer Bee attack, as I think he's in range to do so (and he's much more resistant to this attack at this point than Viridian). If it gets ret-conned that Bunny had to use Extra Effort to acquire a suitable enough power to counter the telekinesis (this I think is definitely reasonable given the descriptors involve) and Wren interposes on this attack for Viridian we'd still be in the fight at the base, admittedly probably not for long owing to being outnumbered and seriously outgunned (potential solution: Viridian Mind Controls Killer Bee and uses his disgusting offense against them). [/QUOTE]

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