Support caster?

[Road_Runner]

I'm looking for a class or prestige class where you buff (and maybe heal also) your allies? Is there any good classes or prestige classes for that?

The main restriction is that my DM has banned wizard.

 

[Verdande]

Banned wizard? Really?

Also, I'm going to assume that you're talking about 3rd edition and not 2e or 1e or oD&D or BECMI or any of the other games that are also included in the legacy forum.

Play a Cleric or Druid. They're awesome buffers.

Or you could play a Sorcerer, I guess. I dunno.

 

[Verdande]

Also, holy crap, you triple posted. For shame.

 

[Shin Okada]

Buff and heal allies? Isn't that exactly what clerics meant to do in D&D, regardless of edition?

Anyway, it helps us to make you more constructive advice if you provide us more information regarding your games.

1) Which edition of rule sets are you using?
2) Which books are allowed in your games?
3) Other than banning Wizard, are there any special restriction?

 

[irdeggman]

3.5 or 3.0 bard is a great class for what you want.

Bardic music is designed to inspire your allies to make them better - and you can still fight (use a bow to stay out of melee range) while "singing".

 

[Sachiru]

3.5 or 3.0 bard is a great class for what you want.

Bardic music is designed to inspire your allies to make them better - and you can still fight (use a bow to stay out of melee range) while "singing".

Or you can get a chain and Improved Trip, and, you know, trip opponents. While singing.

 

[radmod]

Is the ban on wiz part of the storyline (e.g. wizards had caused all the evil in the world, etc.) or does he just not like them?

The DMG's Mystic Theurge is a totally support PrC (gain spellcasting levels in each of one arcane and one divine, per level). Instead of Wiz (if possible) you can have Bard or Sorc for your arcane.

 

[Dandu]

Or you can get a chain and Improved Trip, and, you know, trip opponents. While singing.

You can also trip with a whip.

Also, protip: Mystic Theurge sucks. You're better off going into War Weaver if you want to do support.

 

[radmod]

Also, protip: Mystic Theurge sucks. You're better off going into War Weaver if you want to do support.

Great "pro"-tip: Heal much?
An MT sucks only if you play it badly. If you're really playing support, and not just combat support like most hack-n-slashers, it gives you a wide range of options. It's drawback is that it can be extremely soft and squishy.

You don't like the MT but you do the bard? Seriously? Yeah, let's play a character that's not very good at anything but who can do a little of everything (just barely). I personally like bards but there are many better support characters. Hell, pretty much anything is. Especially depending on how your DM allows the bardic music effects (I seem to recall discussions along those lines).

 

[Dandu]

Great "pro"-tip

I am a pro.

Heal much?

1. Healing is not buffing.
2. Healing is better done with wands than with spell slots.
3. Higher level spells = more death to your enemies = less need for healing.

That last one is the major point. If you want to buff, you're better off using higher level spells. You are seriously delayed getting higher level spells with Mystic Theurge. This is a problem since higher level spells are much better than lower level spells. You're already behind the curve in spell acquisition as a sorcerer, you're even further behind as a MT.

Oh, and you also need a high wisdom score to cast your divine spells. Great. At least you can get an extremely varied pool of spells known from your cleric side... which will be four levels out of date at best since you start off your career as a Mystic Theurge as a Cleric3/Sorcerer4 at the earliest. Unless you use a cheesy early entry trick, of course.

When you reach your first level of Mystic Theurge, you're slinging around 2nd level spells while a straight sorcerer has access to Polymorph, Haste, and Mass Enlarge Person, and a straight cleric is using Death Ward, Magic Vestment, and Freedom of Movement. Both get spells like Greater Magic Weapon. And the cleric can dispense more healing.

Sorcerer could too, if she cross classed a few skill points into UMD and picked up some wands.

An MT sucks only if you play it badly. If you're really playing support, and not just combat support like most hack-n-slashers, it gives you a wide range of options. It's drawback is that it can be extremely soft and squishy.

Believe what you want to believe. I'm of the opinion that if MT was as useful as you say, optimizers would use it more. Before you go off about how optimizers are not team players, I know many who enjoy buffing and building buffing oriented builds. Few use Mystic Theurge - well, unless early entry tricks are involved, but most people consider them cheesy and avoid them in real life games.

You don't like the MT but you do the bard?

At what point have I "done" the bard?

Seriously? Yeah, let's play a character that's not very good at anything but who can do a little of everything (just barely).

You seem to have confused me with someone else.

Also, you seem to be taking it personally.