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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Athinar" data-source="post: 6549053" data-attributes="member: 6781944">So, the invisible Half-Orc assassin is hiding say 80 feet in the dark and attacks with bow and arrow, attacking a human with no means of seeing the Half-Orc nor the arrow until it hits the Human and maybe not even then with Total darknessHuman is surprised when the arrows hitsRoll initiative, Human Rolls a natural 20 +2 for Dex, Half-Orc rolls natural 1 + 3 for dexso with the initiative the human gets no "Action/Bonus/Move", the human's turn is now over (but may have a reaction, like the Shield Spell). the Half-Orc assassin now does not get the Assassination because if his lost initiative but the arrow hits the surprised human and does normal damage, something is wrong about this when the human still does not see the half-orc assassinfrom another post, it was said that "Surprise is either before the initiative or the one doing the Surprising has won the initiative or may get Advantage on the Initiative Roll" (may change with the errata)Page 189, Right side, bottom of the page, "anything that deprives you of your ability to take actions also prevents you from taking bonus actions."</blockquote>