D&D 5E Survey: What should the next Magic the Gathering Campaign Setting be?

[Urriak Uruk]

the greater irony of linking the Black legend to treatment of Latin Americans is of course that the Black Legend largerly arose precisely to gain the support of Latin Americans against the Spanish by portraying the North European/English colonist in America to be more benevolent.

However this discussion may be veering too closely to politics....

EXACTLY, thank you.

You're right, we've gotten way off-topic.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Oh, sorry. I guess I can say this.

We were talking about a possible future new setting based in Asian cultures, and how now a new Oriental Adventures should be written to be enough polliticaly correct.

Then I say something may be pollitically correct for you, for not for others. An example would be the comic "Titin in the Congo", or Disney movie "Our Dinosaur is Missing", or the scene of Siamese cats from the movie "the lady and the trump". Today you can't see the movie "The Song of the South" in Disney+. Do remember all those old far west movies where the Northamerican natives were the antagonists, or where Tarzan and the most of white-skin people where the civiliced people and the Blackafrican beings without enough culture. Maybe you think anything is not wrong but somebody will have got a different point of view about the same matter

Today a new Kara-Tur is a true challenge for WotC because it has to be enough pollitically correct to be not censored by Chinese goverment, but also to add enough interesting things for fandom from Taiwan, Japan and Sourth-Korea. I guess WotC will talk with Perfect World Games, the Chinese video game developer, but I also suggest to talk with some Japanese manga publisher (for a crossover with some famous Japanse franchise), and also some Manhwa (Korean comic) company.

(if my PC finds Za Ghao riding a deer, I kill him).

Maybe WotC after publishing Kara-Turn (and possibly being adapted to a MMO by Perfect World) they would rather to create their own version of the Legend of the Five Rings, with ersats of the samurai clans or other factions.

I guess WotC wants to create the ultimate crunch, and after to recover the old fluff, the background or lore of the old lines. Even Jakandor and Cerilia (Birthright) could be new setting of Magic: the Gathering before coming back to D&D.

 

[teitan]

I haven’t bought Ravnica because I don’t have interest in magic but Theros looks cool otherwise I have little interest unless we can get a Dominaria book with an AP set during the Phyrexian invasion.

 

[gyor]

The title is just the most obvious example of why the non-European inspired settings made in the 1980-90s would require a redesign to be published today.

And I really don't want to get in an argument with you about whether another setting is better than FR, because I know nothing I say will ever convince you.

I'll reiterate, that Wizards hasn't published an FR guide since the SCAG in 2015. They don't seem interested in publishing another, especially since they give us FR gazetteers every year in the adventure books.

I know you don't agree that's right of them to do, but it's been the reality since 2015, and there is no hint that is changing. Instead, we've gotten 4 setting books in the last three years; 2 for MtG, 1 from a very popular 3rd party, and the last is a remake of the most recently developed setting.

For that reason, I think Tarkir (a setting that MtG may possibly return to) is far likelier for a book than a region of FR. It's not the likeliest (I think other MtG settings are more likely before Tarkir), but if it's between the two the choice seems clear.

They also didn't publish any settings at all until 2018, stuff CHANGES.

 

[gyor]

Oh, sorry. I guess I can say this.

We were talking about a possible future new setting based in Asian cultures, and how now a new Oriental Adventures should be written to be enough polliticaly correct.

Then I say something may be pollitically correct for you, for not for others. An example would be the comic "Titin in the Congo", or Disney movie "Our Dinosaur is Missing", or the scene of Siamese cats from the movie "the lady and the trump". Today you can't see the movie "The Song of the South" in Disney+. Do remember all those old far west movies where the Northamerican natives were the antagonists, or where Tarzan and the most of white-skin people where the civiliced people and the Blackafrican beings without enough culture. Maybe you think anything is not wrong but somebody will have got a different point of view about the same matter

Today a new Kara-Tur is a true challenge for WotC because it has to be enough pollitically correct to be not censored by Chinese goverment, but also to add enough interesting things for fandom from Taiwan, Japan and Sourth-Korea. I guess WotC will talk with Perfect World Games, the Chinese video game developer, but I also suggest to talk with some Japanese manga publisher (for a crossover with some famous Japanse franchise), and also some Manhwa (Korean comic) company.

(if my PC finds Za Ghao riding a deer, I kill him).

Maybe WotC after publishing Kara-Turn (and possibly being adapted to a MMO by Perfect World) they would rather to create their own version of the Legend of the Five Rings, with ersats of the samurai clans or other factions.

I guess WotC wants to create the ultimate crunch, and after to recover the old fluff, the background or lore of the old lines. Even Jakandor and Cerilia (Birthright) could be new setting of Magic: the Gathering before coming back to D&D.

The Chinese government censors many things, but not for political correctness reasons. There is no D&D 5e translations into Chinese so it's unlikely to face as much cenship because books face less cenship then the internet, and books only in English even less because the only real market for them is the Chinese elites.

Still things like Ghosts and stuff are no nos in mainland China.

So China really isn't the market for any Asian themed D&D books ironically, North America, Europe, Oceania, maybe Japan to a lesser degree are. Maybe the Caribbean and Latin America too and parts of Africa.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

They also didn't publish any settings at all until 2018, stuff CHANGES.

That's not really evidence of anything... we are trying to predict the next product, obviously patterns is a good metric.

But again, there's clearly nothing I can say that will change your mind. You love FR and it's always the product you predict is coming.

 

[Tonguez]

I know there are DnD groups in Hong Kong, Shanghai who mostly access material via Amazon.

Magic is far more popular in China, which is why a tie-in would be beneficial should WOTC want to expand DnD in the Chinese market

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

You have to remember Hasbro tries to have a good relations with China, and we aren't talking only the board-game, but possible online videogames.

If WotC wants to seel a new Oriental Adventures it needs something better than you can find in DM's Guild. Lore/background/fluff? Today you have lots of fandom wiki about videogames, but maybe a CGI animation production for streaming media services is possible. Have you seen the AMV with Alan Walker music and Asian animations in youtube?

* If there is a new Or. Ad Shouldn't it be in the SRD?

 

[gyor]

That's not really evidence of anything... we are trying to predict the next product, obviously patterns is a good metric.

But again, there's clearly nothing I can say that will change your mind. You love FR and it's always the product you predict is coming.

Untrue.