Survivor 10/30 with spoilers

[John Crichton]

Did anyone see tonights episode?

What did you think?

Very entertaining. Pretty decent tension at the end.

Spoiler

I hate John and was really hoping they would get rid of him. I almost thought it would happen.

Next week's looks even better. If it goes down as advertised it seems like a blast.

I like the twist that started last week. I can see it continuing to future versions of Survivor.

 

[ASH]

I do not know how to do spoiler tags!!!!
Everytime I use the color, it makes the color black. Not highlighted. Anyway.

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I was so suprised that Lil got voted back in.
I was so suprised at Burtons new attitude.
I was really dissapointed that Jon did not get voted it out because he is such a backstabbing ass, and a dangerous player. I hate that guy. I hope he leaves next week.
I still really like Christa.
I hope that Burton stays on the honest page.

Umm... I really liked last nights episode and can not wait til next week.

 

[Silver Moon]

I was so suprised that Lil got voted back in. .

I'm not. She's sweet and honest, which is more than can be said about the other three females from the "Outcast" group. I'm thrilled to have her back, but then again, I'm also a Boy Scout leader.

I was so suprised at Burtons new attitude..

I wasn't. He got a huge slice of humble pie being voted off, and with his buddy Sean now gone he had no real choice than to buddy up with the others. I love the way Rupert totally played him, putting Burton on the defensive and making him apologize to the guy who voted him off!

I was really dissapointed that Jon did not get voted it out because he is such a backstabbing ass, and a dangerous player. I hate that guy. I hope he leaves next week. .

I'm not. Everyone after this episode is on the jury, and I can see why they felt it best to have Andrew NOT on it, as he has the ability to strongly influence the rest of his former tribe. They needed Jon to have a solid Anti-Andrew vote, and will probably keep him around for another anti-Morgan vote or two.

I still really like Christa. .

She's the one I now suspect will win. I like Rupert better, but he is wearing way too large a target.

I hope that Burton stays on the honest page. .

I don't think he really has a choice, so he will.

Umm... I really liked last nights episode and can not wait til next week.

I loved it! I couldn't believe it when that ass Andrew actually asked Lil to let him know if he was on the chopping block! And just loved her throwing his past betrayal of her back at him! Payback is sweet.

 

[stevelabny]

i agree with most of what silver moon said, if you are surprised at burton and lil being the two who came back, or jon NOT getting voted off... you wouldnt be a good player.

at this point, its in anyones best interest to bring jon to the finals, if they are sure they can avoid being the victim of his backstab on the way.

as much as i would have loved a final four of savage, burton, jon and rupert, the drakes did the right thing voting off andrew last night. just like rupert did the right thing sweet-talking burton, and burton did the right-thing sweet-talking and giving immunity to rupert.

with the exception of the anti-rupert plots (especially trishs) this has been a well-played game by everyone.
andrew just got screwed by the outcast tribe and the merge.
and except for lil, the 9 people left look like theyll be able to play.

but right now the game is about rupert.

when are the others going to get together to vote him off... will they do it NOW? will they wait to ditch the morgans? or will sandra and christa and rupert go to the 3 before the girls ditch him? is rupert playing to win or not? this is the question of the moment.

for burton and lil, they should vote off one more morgan (if burton is smart, one of the girls) , than a drake (probably jon) and then team with the last 2 morgans to toss the 3 drakes. that would make a four-some of burton-lil-ryan- darrah or tijuana... where all 4 of them have about an equal chance.

for the morgans, they should be trying to win back burton and lil and try to get jon in as much trouble as possible. if they can get the drake trio to toss jon too early they have a chance to get the foursome described above. or even a case of final morgan-outcasts-jon if possile.

for jon, just keep on keeping on. dont make any move until its down to 7 or maybe even 5 or you KNOW theyre gonna toss you. his best chance probably involves voting off 2 morgans, then trying to join burton and lil and the last morgan and HOPE that they go along with him. if he stays with the drake trio, even if he gets the girls to toss rupert, i'm pretty sure sandra and christa would take their chances against each other and he'd have no chance at the final two.

for sandra and christa, logic says ride with rupert and jon and one morgan girl. make sure you dont get in an ugly 2 on 2 if rupert really is trying to win and sides with jon at the end. thats why you need to keep one more girl around. the morgans + outcasts+ jon currently outnumber you, do something about that as soon as possible. get rid of one of the morgan girls, then lil,ryan, jon, burton, rupert and the other morgan girl IN THAT ORDER.

if rupert is trying to win, he should vote off all 3 morgans, then lil, then team with burton and jon to vote off the girls. all while promising both of them that he is with them to the end. thats his ONLY chance of getting to the final two.

EVERY survivor so far has had the LAST immunity challenge be "standing uncomfortably as long as possible" which favors female players. im too lazy to look it up, but i think the only two guys to win it were ethan ( a soccer player going against a guy and older girl? ) and colby (against tina and someone?)

most players never seem to look ahead past the next immunity. i really wish survivor gave them private diaries so we could EVER see their long-range plans. sometimes i like to think that "honest" ones are just playing correctly until the right time to launch their scheme, but that never happens. i'm afraid poor rupert isnt gonna try to get to the final two any other way besides beating sandra and christa at the last immunity.

ok, i probably just killed this poor thread, ill shut up now

 

[Piratecat]

Ash, the spoiler tags are putting the word "spoiler" in [] brackets at the start. Finish by putting "/spoiler" in brackets.

 

[ASH]

Piratecat...Thanks so much.



The best way to win Survivor, In my opinion, would be to attach yourself to someone very secretly early in the game. Do not stand out, be part of a larger alliance, and let the other person do the main dirty work with out implicating yourself. EXPLE: ..Colby and Tina... Tina was right there all along, no one really knew about thier alliance until very late in the game, and Colby made the enemies, not Tina.

I do not see Rupert siding with Jon, He will be Ruperts next drake target. Jon has switch sides to many times to be truely trusted. Unless there is an alliance with him and one of the remaining Drake girls, or he makes one with someone from morgan, He is toast, I think we will see him become desperate.

Rupert keeps speaking his mind. This is suicide. As if the target was not big enough on his chest he opens his mouth and says something that could be harmful, or offencive to the other players.

I just can not see that morgan is a tribe with out Andrew. I can see them making new ties now. I would not be suprised if we see the girls try to rally against the boys. I hope that does not happen, I hate it when the battle of the sexes thing gets going.

I am suprised that Lil came back because she is not a strong player. She seems to be very truthful, and does not seem to be pysically able to win Immunity. I would have thought that Michelle or Sean would have been back in.
I was not suprised that Burton came back, but that he was so ready to admit his shortcomings. Although, Silver moon, your right, its hard not to be humble when you leave like he did.

Posted by stevelabny
i agree with most of what silver moon said, if you are surprised at burton and lil being the two who came back, or jon NOT getting voted off... you wouldnt be a good player.

Although I am sure you ment no malice in this comment, It was a bit on the not needed side.


I think that I would be fine at playing this game. I have had my fair share at manipulation and find i am very good, and innocent at the art. But the fact is it does not matter, I will never be on survivor, even if I wanted to be I would not be considered. To plain and chubby. But thats fine, i like to watch it on TV.


I did agree with a fair amount of what stevelabny, and Silver moon posted.

My Prediction, Rupert, or Jon to go in the next episode. THe girls will end up forming an alliance.



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[Silver Moon]

I don't know that we really need spoiler tags with this tread, given that "with spoilers" is in the thread title.

Personally, I think that the former Morgan tribe has already blown their best opportunity to survive - as Jon had previously told them "We threw the challenge to get rid of Burton." Morgan may not have believed that at the time, but could have still used that quote to try to turn Burton, with his double immunties, prior to the vote.

 

[ASH]

Actually Silver Moon you make a great point. I dont know if Burton will do anything when, and if, he finds out that they threw the challenge but the fact that Rupert was soooooo against it may be another thing to help with the Rupert/Burton relationship, But it could drive Burton right to Morgan.