Survivor Appendix N Authors- LEIBER WINS!

[Parmandur]

Woah.

I thought I had some HAWT TAEKS.

You just went straight up to scorching. You were like, "See that ant hill? IMA SHOOT METEOR SWARM, B******! I'M RICK JAMES!"

Now, I can get behind a good debate as to whether or not ol' J.R.R. is overrated, or properly rated, good or bad.... but UNDERRATED?

What, are you trying to pitch an idea to Slate or something?

Is this the same J.R.R. that we had people, in this thread, saying was ... um, objectively the best?

The same J.R.R. that had people in the UK in 2003 (right after Return of the Kings was in theaters) say, "Hey- he wrote the best book ever." (Austen? Orwell? Bronte (either)? Dickens? Tolstoy? Marquez? Whatever man.)

The same J.R.R. that has major motion picture about his books, that, collectively, last 5,000 hours? Before the director's cuts? And they even mined his earlier, better book to make it into a giant three-movie spectacle of excess?

The same J.R.R. that is having his other, cruddier, world-buildier stuff mined for a massive Amazon series?

The same J.R.R. that has had a number of different RPGs and computer games based entirely off of his world?

.... that guy? Underrated? What, you want his name carved on the moon?

We'll, that's all a good start, certainly. I like where your head is at with the Moon writing. I could have said something truly ridiculous like "Tolkien is overrated," but that's simply absurd.

Now, we say a given artist is "overrated" or "underrated" based on the ratio of their critical and public acclaim relative to the merit of their work. Certain artists, like Tolkien or Beethoven, cannot be "overrated," as their acclaim can never exceed the value of their work. The fact that we are discussing this topic is itself adequate demonstration that Tolkien is underrated. [emoji14]

 

[TiwazTyrsfist]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 5
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 12
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 22
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
Saberhagen, Fred 1
St. Clair, Margaret 20
Tolkien, J. R. R. 22
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 23

 

[OB1]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 5
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 12
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 22
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
Saberhagen, Fred 1-2=00P
St. Clair, Margaret 20+1=21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 22
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 23

 

[Lord Mhoram]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 5
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 10
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 22
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 22
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[chrisrtld]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 3
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 10
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 22
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 23
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[Reynard]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 3-2=1
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 10+1=11
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 22
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 23
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[Invisible Stalker]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 1
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 11
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 24
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 20
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 24
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[Sacrosanct]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 1
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 11
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 25
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 20
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 22
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[CleverNickName]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp, L. Sprague 1-2=-1 DEAD. I can't believe I have to downvote this guy twice
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 11
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 25
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 20
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 22+1=23, obviously
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24

 

[StormbringerAUS]

Bellairs, John 19
Brackett, Leigh 15 - 2 = 13
Brown, Frederic 18
Burroughs, Edgar Rice 23
Carter, Lin 17
de Camp & Pratt 20
Dunsany, Lord 20
Farmer, P. J. 4
Gardner, Fox 21
Howard, R.E. 11
Lanier, Sterling 18
Leiber, Fritz 25
Merritt, A. 20
Moorcock, Michael 20
Norton, Andre 20
Offutt, Andrew J. 18
Pratt, Fletcher 18
St. Clair, Margaret 21
Tolkien, J. R. R. 23+1=24, obviously
Weinbaum, Stanley 16
Wellman, Manley Wade 16
Williamson, Jack 18
Zelazny, Roger 24