Survivor - Fiji (spoilers)

[John Crichton]

I can't believe that idiot told Dreamz about the Idol! Some people are clueless.

Agreed, that was stupid.

 

[el-remmen]

I can't believe that idiot told Dreamz about the Idol! Some people are clueless.

I would have done it, too.

And I'm no idiot (most of the time).

I think Mookie was already starting to feel like he was gonna be squeezed out and was trying to get Dreamz on his side for support. Dreamz is the idiot for not voting out, uh. .. what's her name. . . Stacy.

 

[sckeener]

I think Mookie was already starting to feel like he was gonna be squeezed out and was trying to get Dreamz on his side for support. Dreamz is the idiot for not voting out, uh. .. what's her name. . . Stacy.

agreed. I think Mookie realized he was in trouble and tried to reach out to Dreamz...

unfortunately I think he should have done it when he was alone with Dreamz and painted it as the others wanted him not to tell Dreamz.

Dreamz is an idiot for not voting out Stacy....I think he gets off on being the deciding vote.... The illusion of power.

likewise I am not sure confronting Dreamz about his stupidity is the wisest thing Mookie could do as we saw in the previews....

 

[SWBaxter]

I can't believe that idiot told Dreamz about the Idol! Some people are clueless.

The way the hidden idols work, I think there's actually a lot of value to having people know you've got it, but only when the votes are fairly close. If nobody knows you have it, then you need a real good idea of whether you're a target since you have to play it before the votes are read. OTOH if they do know you have it, they're less likely to vote for you in the first place, and you've got a bargaining chip to insert yourself into the winning alliance. Now, I dunno if Mookie has thought that through completely, but it's at least possible that he has the idea that he can stay allied with Ed and Alex for now and yet also be relatively safe if Earl's alliance gets the upper hand.

Odd question, how many camera men are there on survivor? Is there a camera man for every person? That way if they all split up there is a cameraman for everyone?

Yeah, I believe so. That gets easier as the game goes on, of course. From interviews I've read from past participants, it's safe to assume the players are filmed almost 24/7.

I guess the reason this question came to me was I wonder what happens during editing. I wonder what scenes they cut....who they chose to focus on this week because they know what happens next week...how much do we get jerked around because of editing....

This season was filmed last September; the next one (Survivor 15, apparently it'll be in China) will start filming before this one ends. So the producers have lots of time to pick what footage they want to show. I wouldn't necessarily call it jerking the audience around, but they do pick and choose which stories they want to tell based on what'll make good TV. Obviously they want to show any interesting scenes with a player before that player's voted off, and sometimes they hide successful game-long alliances. But they'll also toss in enough misdirection to keep people guessing, so you can't be certain that just because somebody like Yau Man has gotten a lot of screentime, he's going to get voted off soon.

 

[Mark CMG]

They caught Edgardo, off his guard, oh!

 

[John Crichton]

The (pathetic) 4 Horseman got outsmarted & outplayed on two fronts. Dreamz doesn't have the chops to pull off his dual-role (obviously, no one trusts him) and is likely to get picked off next as he can be a threat in the challenges. People are scared of Alex, as well and he will certainly be a target.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Stacy, Dreamz & Boo at this point. The smart move for them would be to align with Mookie & Alex. They need to get the other idol out of play. Otherwise, Earl has too much power.

As opposed to some other seasons (with the same amount of people left), the next few immunity challenges are huge and will make the finale very interesting. There doesn't appear to be two major camps and many people will be looking for alliances that will only last a week or two. Fun stuff.

I'll also mention that I love to hate Yau Man. His arrogance annoys and entertains me. I'm rooting for Alex, if only just to see if he can orchestrate his way into surviving past 3 more Tribal Counsels.

 

[Arnwyn]

By far, the best tribal council since the first season. For once, the producers/editors didn't screw with the audience with selective editing, and actually followed through and showed the audience the actual scheming that counted. Finally.

As I said before - Yau Man F.T.W. He is humble and completely not arrogant. Nice to see. Hopefully Alex and those other loser "4 [now 3] horsemen" get wiped out. Fast.

 

[John Crichton]

By far, the best tribal council since the first season. For once, the producers/editors didn't screw with the audience with selective editing, and actually followed through and showed the audience the actual scheming that counted. Finally.

The first season was the only one I didn't watch so far. I imagine I'll pick it up on DVD or somesuch along the way, especially to see how things have changed in 15+ seasons, and growing. That said, it was a tactically sound TC which we don't get all that often.

I can't tell if it's too much a mixture of stupid + smart or just a ton of stuff going on in a short period of time. And I've come to the conclusion that I don't care, it was entertaining. And I don't know any specifics but according to a blurb I read a while back, both hidden idols really jazz up TC before the final 4, unlike last season.

I say bring it on.

 

[Mark CMG]

Until Probst said so, I did not know that, once used, the immunity idol would be rehidden for someone else to potentially find.

 

[Shalimar]

Has an immunity idol ever actually been played before? It always seems like people agree to use it for someone else but never are actually able because of the rules concerning its use. They almost seem written so that people don't use them.

I'd actually like it more if they used it after the vote and then the 2nd most person is automatically bumped off.