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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nac_Mac_Feegle" data-source="post: 2874534" data-attributes="member: 32300">Chimestry 5+Dominate 5+Presence 5+You can and will do everythign I tell you, and it will be believable, or its out to the cornfield with youAn elder Ventrue is going to be a swine to deal with, if he has any magic powers, or chimestry at level 5+, he can make reality for you, whatever he wants, no building work requiredSaying that, I have been in some god awful Vampire games, it seemd everything in the game was bigger and harder than us, and we were just on the rollercoaster ride while the GM got all his ideas and plots out in the open, and eveyr vampire was 4th generation and could kill us wiht a flick of his wrists.God that was dull, why bother running a game if the PC's have absolutely no control over what they do, who they interact with, and are incapable of defeating anyone. Might as well not bother turning up.Tell the Storyteller straight "Nice game, but when do we get to do something other than just be a puppet, cos there no point playing otherwise"Feegle Out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>