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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4688064" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I initially agreed with you until I found page 292:</p><p></p><p>Use a Power</p><p></p><p>That is an explicit game definition of using a power (not a very good one, but it is there nonetheless and its intent is fairly obvious).</p><p></p><p>It is a separate definition than the Sustain a Power definition found in the Durations section.</p><p></p><p>Page 268 states that a Ranged Attack provokes.</p><p>Page 290 states that a Range Power provokes.</p><p></p><p>I do not think that page 268 trumps 290 to indicate that only attacks provoke. Instead, 268 is generic OA rules and 290 is specific OA rules.</p><p></p><p>Cleric casts Knights of Unyielding Valor. It is a Ranged Power. It provokes OA.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ditto for the page 268 "making a ranged attack" phrase. The phrase "making a ranged attack" is generic text in a section on Triggering. The section is not giving rules about how OAs work, that is found on page 290 in the OA section. Page 268 is giving rules on Triggering.</p><p></p><p>The phrase "uses a ranged power" as per the OA rules on page 290 is specific due to the game term "Use a Power" rules on page 292.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the Use a Power section did not exist on page 292, then I would agree that "use a power" is not a game mechanic phrase.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Note: It's real easy to sway me to the opposite side of the fence.</p><p></p><p>PC Warlock: "Your honor. Obviously I was sustaining the power and not using it. The fact that the Baron died is not because of my use of the power, it's because he was standing next to the Curse of the Golden Mist when it attacked him. I had nothing to do with that because I was not using the power."</p><p></p><p>Ranged Power: check</p><p>Making an Attack (as per page 268): check</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4688064, member: 2011"] I initially agreed with you until I found page 292: Use a Power That is an explicit game definition of using a power (not a very good one, but it is there nonetheless and its intent is fairly obvious). It is a separate definition than the Sustain a Power definition found in the Durations section. Page 268 states that a Ranged Attack provokes. Page 290 states that a Range Power provokes. I do not think that page 268 trumps 290 to indicate that only attacks provoke. Instead, 268 is generic OA rules and 290 is specific OA rules. Cleric casts Knights of Unyielding Valor. It is a Ranged Power. It provokes OA. Ditto for the page 268 "making a ranged attack" phrase. The phrase "making a ranged attack" is generic text in a section on Triggering. The section is not giving rules about how OAs work, that is found on page 290 in the OA section. Page 268 is giving rules on Triggering. The phrase "uses a ranged power" as per the OA rules on page 290 is specific due to the game term "Use a Power" rules on page 292. If the Use a Power section did not exist on page 292, then I would agree that "use a power" is not a game mechanic phrase. Note: It's real easy to sway me to the opposite side of the fence. PC Warlock: "Your honor. Obviously I was sustaining the power and not using it. The fact that the Baron died is not because of my use of the power, it's because he was standing next to the Curse of the Golden Mist when it attacked him. I had nothing to do with that because I was not using the power." Ranged Power: check Making an Attack (as per page 268): check [/QUOTE]
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