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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 4688884" data-attributes="member: 111">I think you may be over-analyzing, Hyp.While it is true that Freezing Cloud is adjudicated as an attack roll, it's really not the wizard making an attack because the wizard is not doing anything, its just an ongoing effect.  The wizard is not making an attack roll, but merely using an attack roll to adjudicate the effect.  How, then do we know the difference?  Simple:  The wizard is not sustaining the power.  Admittedly, this paragraph is my interpretation of why the CustServ decision came down the way it did, based in part upon the additional explanation they came forward with for M's Sword.As for Bigby's Grasping Hands, any additional attacks are granted only if the wizard sustains the power, so an OA would happen in this case.  i assuming, of course, that the "The hands persists" means that further attacks may be made using the hand.  If not, there would be little point in sustaining this power.True enough, but you may notice I went to great pains to get a clear, unambiguous answer and have done so.  I think my later answer is better thought out, and note I had two CustServ analysts weight in on it, which gives it even more credibility.  It seems to me that the answer that I got overrides your earlier answer.[quote = Hypersmurf]Even if the Warlord power let him make a ranged attack without taking an action, he'd still provoke an OA, per p268 - he's making a ranged attack.</blockquote>Are there any such powers??  It seems unlikely.  If not, that's a moot point, otherwise known as a red herring and I will address it only if some specific example can be found, otherwise I will assume such a power does not exist.I will send two more questions to CustServ on this issue, to wit:1.  Is the following a fair restatement of what you have told me so far:While sustaining a power, a ranged or area attack will allow an OA. The attack type (ranged, area, close, etc.), when unspecified, is of the same type listed in the power's description.2.  If so, does this mean that the attacks made in subsequent rounds from someone entering a Freezing Sphere here would not provoke an OA on the wizard because the wizard is not taking any actions (no sustaining the power).  Note that if this is true, it invalidates an earlier answer from you folks at Customer Service, but I don't see why, after further consideration, you cannot change your collective mind.[/QUOTE]

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