According to the pleadings (para 20 of Sweetpea's counterclaim) they paid $15,000 for the option. Were there further option payments?
(Not meaning to pick on you - just curious about how this tangled mess came about.)
Sweatpea Entertainment suing WotC over film.
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(Not meaning to pick on you - just curious about how this tangled mess came about.)
Scrivener of Doom
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It's even worse!
No, the USD100K came from another article I read some time ago. I hadn't read these pleadings so was going by what I had read previously. (From memory, it may have even been an interview with Solomon.)
USD15K is just criminal negligence on the part of whoever signed off from TSR on that deal. Then again, it was TSR.
(Not at all. I simply assumed you were trying to get to the bottom of it and not pick on me. Facts are facts, after all.)
I tend to agree.
The other thing I was puzzled about (see post 21 upthread) was the broader context for the settlement between Solomon and WotC in the late 90s. Do you know who had the upper hand in that? If it was WotC, they went with a pretty poorly drafted amendment to the agreement.
pedr
Explorer
I hadn't seen the counterclaim until today and have only skimmed it and the agreement, but isn't the core agreement to make one, single film based on what was then Dungeons & Dragons (not AD&D), plus rights to make sequels to that film. The effect of the second amendment excluding things published from 1995 onwards would suggest, if you adopt Sweetpea's interpretation, that no one can make a movie based on post-1995 material. This makes the BoVD movie seem very weird.
I'm hoping to find time to read this more closely. Does anyone have a link to the original claim by WotC?
I'm hoping to find time to read this more closely. Does anyone have a link to the original claim by WotC?
The alleged restriction is on the use of Dungeons & Dragons as a movie title, and on others using D&D material in a way that infringes Sweetpea's asserted rights (see paras 33 to 35 of the counterclaim). Hasbro could license the use of post-1995 material, or could use it itself, provided that that did not infringe Sweetpea's rights under clause 4(c) of the agreement.
Zaran
Adventurer
Hasbro should just call their movie the Crystal Shard. I think that's the best way to get people back in to see a dnd movie. Don't acknowledge the movie as a DnD movie and sell it on it's own merits. DC comics does it all the time. Both Red and Losers are from comic books that DC printed but they weren't advertised that way.
It could have been worse, it could have been Ewe Boll.
Admittedly, even that couldn't be a whole lot worse, but still.
This is huge mess over what has been and more than likely will be just horrendously bad movies. It makes my head spin.
But if they make a Crystal Shard movie I would love to see Ben Affleck as Drizzt he was born for the role.
In fact hand the whole movie over to Kevin Smith.
Ben Affleck as Drizzt
Matt Damon as Wulfgar
Kevin Smith as Bruenor Battlehammer
Jason Mewes as Regis
Chloe Grace Moretz as Catti-brie
George Carlin as the Balor Errtu
But if they make a Crystal Shard movie I would love to see Ben Affleck as Drizzt he was born for the role.
In fact hand the whole movie over to Kevin Smith.
Ben Affleck as Drizzt
Matt Damon as Wulfgar
Kevin Smith as Bruenor Battlehammer
Jason Mewes as Regis
Chloe Grace Moretz as Catti-brie
George Carlin as the Balor Errtu
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darjr
I crit!
Wait! Then he couldn't do batma..... oh.
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