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switching a versatile weapon between 1h and 2h, what action?
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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 4468951" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>re</strong></p><p></p><p>If I were DMing, I would go with the intent of the rules. There is no real world analogue to base magic powers on and 4E is strongly oriented towards balance. If it says you must have a hand free and your last attack was made with two hands to gain the versatile advantage, then you lose the ability to gain any benefits from having an offhand free such as gaining the shield bonus or the ability to use your aegis.</p><p></p><p>I do not allow exploitation of the rules by players that try to fast talk the DM into allowing them to do something that the rules clearly do not intend them to do because of some fuzzy or poor wording they are trying to manipulate.</p><p></p><p>So as far as the Swordmage goes, no, I wouldn't allow them to use 2 hands and then use their Aegis if it says they must have one hand free. I would consider that a requirement of the power. And if they want some real specific reason, I would just tell them the hand just be working in some strange pattern to enable the ritual throughout the round.</p><p></p><p>I do not allow power gamer exploiters and will decide against them immediately when they try to abuse. This sounds like an uintended abuse of a class ability to me. That +1 damage may not be a big deal, but the shield using fighter or paladin can't gain the +1 damage while using their shield, so neither can the sword mage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 4468951, member: 5834"] [b]re[/b] If I were DMing, I would go with the intent of the rules. There is no real world analogue to base magic powers on and 4E is strongly oriented towards balance. If it says you must have a hand free and your last attack was made with two hands to gain the versatile advantage, then you lose the ability to gain any benefits from having an offhand free such as gaining the shield bonus or the ability to use your aegis. I do not allow exploitation of the rules by players that try to fast talk the DM into allowing them to do something that the rules clearly do not intend them to do because of some fuzzy or poor wording they are trying to manipulate. So as far as the Swordmage goes, no, I wouldn't allow them to use 2 hands and then use their Aegis if it says they must have one hand free. I would consider that a requirement of the power. And if they want some real specific reason, I would just tell them the hand just be working in some strange pattern to enable the ritual throughout the round. I do not allow power gamer exploiters and will decide against them immediately when they try to abuse. This sounds like an uintended abuse of a class ability to me. That +1 damage may not be a big deal, but the shield using fighter or paladin can't gain the +1 damage while using their shield, so neither can the sword mage. [/QUOTE]
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