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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gribble" data-source="post: 3648273" data-attributes="member: 12430">I think the point is that a jedi who spends a feat on ranged weapon proficiency isn't going to be as good as the scoundrel/soldier with Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, etc. To be even with the ranged combat guys at ranged combat, a jedi has to invest a lot of feats (and probably also multiclass and pick up some non-jedi talents). But then he's not as good at melee combat as the raging wookie scout/soldier who's focussed on that. Or as good with force powers as the noble/force sensative who has focussed on force powers.Yes, Jedi have a lot of options, but IME with Saga they have to really focus on one area to be good at it. Even then, the only advantages that Jedi get over the other classes are the Jedi talents (Block, Deflect, Redirect seem to be the most popular example), and the other classes get talents which are just as good (in different circumstances) that only they can get.Rather than looking at the theory, get your friend to make up a jedi, and compare it to an actual soldier that you've made up focussing in one area.By third level the jedi will have 2 talents (block, deflect) and 3 feats (at least one of which will probably be Force Training, and one of the others will probably be Skill Focus [UTF]). That leaves the jedi with likely only one discretionary feat.The soldier, on the other hand, spends his two talents on say Weapon Specialisation and Melee Smash, for a total of +3 to damage, one of his three feats is advanced weapon proficiency, the other weapon focus, and the third... how about powerful charge or rapid/mighty swing?Give the soldier a vibroaxe and it's pretty easy to see which one will be more effective in melee combat, even if their Str scores are equal (in reality, you'll probably find the Soldier has a higher score, as he doesn't have to worry about putting high scores in Wis or Cha, unlike the Jedi). And thats not even looking at Ranged Combat (which your jedi will be pretty awful at by 3rd level, whereas a specialist soldier will be just as good as the specialist melee build).No sir, seems (in theory, and in the actual play I've observed) to be very nicely balanced.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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