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<blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 3358099" data-attributes="member: 24969"><p>I say increase the time it takes to take 20 for Search. It may take 2 minutes per 5' square if the square is empty. However, searching 5' squares with stuff in them will take much longer. Taking 20 when searching a book shelf means carefully flipping though each book, removing all books from the bookshelf, checking the bookshelf for secret doors and probably moving it. That's going to take much much longer than 2 minutes.</p><p></p><p>As for Listen, I'd rule that you can only take 20 if the noise is constant and steady, like machinery or somebody singing a song. You probably can't listen for random sounds to see if somebody is in the next making random noise room and take 20 because each sound they might be making is different and in effect not a repeatable attempt. Even if you allow it to see if they hear any noise, unless the noise is being made every round, they'd need to spend at least 20 units of time it takes for each sound to make a check. There might be a guard next door, but unless he's non-stop talking, he's only burping, making jokes, and knocking his equipment against the stone walls once every minute or so. That means taking 20 will take 20 minutes, not 2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="painandgreed, post: 3358099, member: 24969"] I say increase the time it takes to take 20 for Search. It may take 2 minutes per 5' square if the square is empty. However, searching 5' squares with stuff in them will take much longer. Taking 20 when searching a book shelf means carefully flipping though each book, removing all books from the bookshelf, checking the bookshelf for secret doors and probably moving it. That's going to take much much longer than 2 minutes. As for Listen, I'd rule that you can only take 20 if the noise is constant and steady, like machinery or somebody singing a song. You probably can't listen for random sounds to see if somebody is in the next making random noise room and take 20 because each sound they might be making is different and in effect not a repeatable attempt. Even if you allow it to see if they hear any noise, unless the noise is being made every round, they'd need to spend at least 20 units of time it takes for each sound to make a check. There might be a guard next door, but unless he's non-stop talking, he's only burping, making jokes, and knocking his equipment against the stone walls once every minute or so. That means taking 20 will take 20 minutes, not 2. [/QUOTE]
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