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<blockquote data-quote="Bumamgar" data-source="post: 4630169" data-attributes="member: 38648"><p>In my opinion, the real takeaway for Fighter players from this thread is this:</p><p></p><p>a) If your DM plays monsters in such a way that they nearly always attack the character which marked them, you should focus your build on defense almost exclusively.</p><p></p><p>b) If your DM plays monsters in such a way that they nearly always ignore the character which marked them, you should focus your build on offense almost exclusively.</p><p></p><p>c) If your DM uses a mixed strategy, with monsters ignoring marks some of the time, and attacking the marker some of the time, you should focus on a balanced build.</p><p></p><p>In any scenario, a defender is a value add, however. In scenario (a), the rest of the party can focus on offense, knowing that they will rarely be attacked directly as long as the defender is around. In scenario (b), a properly built offensive Fighter will outdamage the strikers due to getting to make so many extra attacks, and in scenario (c) everyone has to balance offense vs. defense in their build, which provides oportunities for everyone to shine from time to time.</p><p></p><p>The real catch is that the player needs to figure out what his DM's playstyle is like, and then build the appropriate type of character. Of course, to a certain extent this is true of every class, but with the Fighter it can lead to some really sub-optimal situations if you don't build correctly compared to your DMs handling of the marking power. An offensive focused fighter with a category (a) DM is going to take a lot of damage and be a drain on the party's healing resources. A defensive focused fighter with a category (b) DM isn't ever going to get hit, and won't out damage the strikers, so probably should re-roll as a striker himself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bumamgar, post: 4630169, member: 38648"] In my opinion, the real takeaway for Fighter players from this thread is this: a) If your DM plays monsters in such a way that they nearly always attack the character which marked them, you should focus your build on defense almost exclusively. b) If your DM plays monsters in such a way that they nearly always ignore the character which marked them, you should focus your build on offense almost exclusively. c) If your DM uses a mixed strategy, with monsters ignoring marks some of the time, and attacking the marker some of the time, you should focus on a balanced build. In any scenario, a defender is a value add, however. In scenario (a), the rest of the party can focus on offense, knowing that they will rarely be attacked directly as long as the defender is around. In scenario (b), a properly built offensive Fighter will outdamage the strikers due to getting to make so many extra attacks, and in scenario (c) everyone has to balance offense vs. defense in their build, which provides oportunities for everyone to shine from time to time. The real catch is that the player needs to figure out what his DM's playstyle is like, and then build the appropriate type of character. Of course, to a certain extent this is true of every class, but with the Fighter it can lead to some really sub-optimal situations if you don't build correctly compared to your DMs handling of the marking power. An offensive focused fighter with a category (a) DM is going to take a lot of damage and be a drain on the party's healing resources. A defensive focused fighter with a category (b) DM isn't ever going to get hit, and won't out damage the strikers, so probably should re-roll as a striker himself :) [/QUOTE]
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