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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas5251212" data-source="post: 2202300" data-attributes="member: 31221"><p>The issue was whether the touch version was a clear winner against the Reflex version; against all but a pretty limited subset of targets it sounds like it is.  I'm not really fond of mechanical tradeoffs that are theoretically balanced but in actuallity not, and I wanted to know if this was one before I got into using the system.  The resposnes so far seem to indicate to me that, at least when used with vanilla D&D assumptions, that's the case, and if I'm going to use it there I need to find some method of balancing them out not included in the basic system.</p></blockquote><p></p>