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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8138014" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Okay, real talk, Drummers are a vital part of any band. As a guy who was in marching band, the Drums were our backbone. </p><p></p><p>I know it is a meme, but I gotta stand up for my mates, they had mad skills. </p><p></p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorcerer came about in 3.X right? Taking a perusal through the PHB from 3.5 I see nothing in the class description that says they "prefer to do things personally" </p><p></p><p>I do note they can summon Familiars, They also had access to Summon Monster 1 thru 9. command undead, Mordenkainen's faithful hound... so yeah, the basis for the sorcerers power was not that they prefered to do things themselves instead of "waste[ing] time with petty summons."</p><p></p><p>Now, I will grant that 4e didn't have them summoning anything permanent (plenty of abilities that involved a temporary summoning of something, like Blackfire Wyrm or Flight of Dragons), and 5e clearly has decided that isn't a thing, but to declare that it has been a thing since the beginning... seems to be false.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since I'm talking about a subclasses, and the other two subclasses in Tashas get summoning spells.... what is your point? </p><p></p><p>I think the bigger issue is that there are a few sorcerer subclasses where it makes sense, instead of just one at a time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8138014, member: 6801228"] Okay, real talk, Drummers are a vital part of any band. As a guy who was in marching band, the Drums were our backbone. I know it is a meme, but I gotta stand up for my mates, they had mad skills. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorcerer came about in 3.X right? Taking a perusal through the PHB from 3.5 I see nothing in the class description that says they "prefer to do things personally" I do note they can summon Familiars, They also had access to Summon Monster 1 thru 9. command undead, Mordenkainen's faithful hound... so yeah, the basis for the sorcerers power was not that they prefered to do things themselves instead of "waste[ing] time with petty summons." Now, I will grant that 4e didn't have them summoning anything permanent (plenty of abilities that involved a temporary summoning of something, like Blackfire Wyrm or Flight of Dragons), and 5e clearly has decided that isn't a thing, but to declare that it has been a thing since the beginning... seems to be false. Since I'm talking about a subclasses, and the other two subclasses in Tashas get summoning spells.... what is your point? I think the bigger issue is that there are a few sorcerer subclasses where it makes sense, instead of just one at a time. [/QUOTE]
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