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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9469691" data-attributes="member: 7037866">So, they nerfed things a lot of groups were already nerfing?? Nice to know they listened at least somewhat.MOAR POWER has been happening since Tasha's... I think we all know that. Compare the bulk of the classes to the 2014 equivalent and most of the time the new version is simply more powerful. Any one who argues against that is only fooling themselves.Great, so I go from 37 for wild shape (more than you already have as both DRUID and WILD SHAPE in 2024) plus my base 21 (or whatever) for being a 3rd-level druid. Losing nearly half the HP doesn't seem great.I'd argue more like +2 to 3ish at 3rd level.From what exactly? (Seriously, I don't see anything about that...)Like running out was ever really an issue...?Concentration on what??At it is at 10th level! Good luck getting it since 90% of game never make it that far anyway...If you feel so, that is your preference.Admittedly, I did miss they can use the Wild Shape spells while in Wild Shape form... so they can heal themselves, but now it is their action instead of a bonus action?So the trade off you can heal yourself more (but not the depleted temp HP) but can't attack, disengage, or other things since you are sacrificing your action. Seems a bit less useful to me personally.Which, of course, cure wounds is now 2d8 instead of 1d8... MOAR POWER!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL&nbsp; &nbsp; :ROFLMAO:"&nbsp; data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9469691, member: 7037866"] So, they nerfed things a lot of groups were already nerfing?? Nice to know they listened at least somewhat. MOAR POWER has been happening since Tasha's... I think we all know that. Compare the bulk of the classes to the 2014 equivalent and most of the time the new version is simply more powerful. Any one who argues against that is only fooling themselves. Great, so I go from 37 for wild shape (more than you already have as both DRUID and WILD SHAPE in 2024) plus my base 21 (or whatever) for being a 3rd-level druid. Losing nearly half the HP doesn't seem great. I'd argue more like +2 to 3ish at 3rd level. From what exactly? (Seriously, I don't see anything about that...) Like running out was ever really an issue...? Concentration on what?? At it is at 10th level! Good luck getting it since 90% of game never make it that far anyway... If you feel so, that is your preference. Admittedly, I did miss they can use the Wild Shape spells while in Wild Shape form... so they [I]can[/I] heal themselves, but now it is their action instead of a bonus action? So the trade off you can heal yourself more (but not the depleted temp HP) but can't attack, disengage, or other things since you are sacrificing your action. Seems a bit less useful to me personally. Which, of course, [I]cure wounds[/I] is now 2d8 instead of 1d8... [B][I]MOAR POWER!!! :ROFLMAO:[/I][/B] [/QUOTE]

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