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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 2483488" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Ok, here is a pretty odd request for rules clarification.</p><p></p><p>I am working on a rather sick 30th level Epic Gestalt build (purely a mental excercise for the fun of developing a certain string of characters). Anway, for the build in question, I have been looking at template stacking for some of the levels. The problem I am having is getting the rules straight for how the templates stack when it comes to changes to TYPE. </p><p></p><p>What carries over from one type to another? Are traits gained in a previous template retained? Or are they lost and replaced by the new type? What about Qualities?</p><p></p><p>Here is the build I am toying with right now.</p><p></p><p><u>Base</u></p><p>Human = Humanoid</p><p>Woodling (Inhereted) = Retain Type (Humanoid)</p><p>Half-Fey (Inhereted) = Fey type</p><p></p><p><u>Then add</u>:</p><p>Spellwarped (Applied) = Aberration type</p><p></p><p>Gravetouched Ghoul (Applied) = Undead type</p><p>Evolved Undead = (Applied) = Retain Type (Undead)</p><p>10th level of Talontar Blightlord (FR) = Divine power grants change to Plant Type</p><p></p><p></p><p>So... What does this leave for Type traits?</p><p>In the end is the character an Undead Plant having both traits? Or do all of the undead traits vanish and are replaced by Plant traits? If my understanding is correct. Traits are retained unless replaced/superceded by a simlar ability.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Example:</strong> </p><p>The Human Woodling/Half-Fey (Fey Type) becomes Spellwarped (becomes Aberration type).</p><p></p><p><u>Fey Traits</u>: Low-light vision, Proficient with all simple weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry, Proficient with whatever type of armor that it is described as wearing as well as all lighter types, Fey eat-sleep-breathe</p><p></p><p><u>Aberration Traits</u>: Darkvision 60', Proficient with its natural weapons, If generally humanoid in form proficient with all simple weapons and any weapon it is described as using, Proficient with whatever type of armor that it is described as wearing as well as all lighter types, Aberrations eat-sleep-breathe</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now... </p><p>Does the character loose its Low-Light Vision and gain Darkvision instead? Or does it retain its Low-Light Vision and gain Darkvision as well?</p><p>Say the fey grants proficiency in short sword (pixie). Does it lose that proficiency when it becomes an aberration?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for any and all help to undersatand how this works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 2483488, member: 2167"] Ok, here is a pretty odd request for rules clarification. I am working on a rather sick 30th level Epic Gestalt build (purely a mental excercise for the fun of developing a certain string of characters). Anway, for the build in question, I have been looking at template stacking for some of the levels. The problem I am having is getting the rules straight for how the templates stack when it comes to changes to TYPE. What carries over from one type to another? Are traits gained in a previous template retained? Or are they lost and replaced by the new type? What about Qualities? Here is the build I am toying with right now. [u]Base[/u] Human = Humanoid Woodling (Inhereted) = Retain Type (Humanoid) Half-Fey (Inhereted) = Fey type [u]Then add[/u]: Spellwarped (Applied) = Aberration type Gravetouched Ghoul (Applied) = Undead type Evolved Undead = (Applied) = Retain Type (Undead) 10th level of Talontar Blightlord (FR) = Divine power grants change to Plant Type So... What does this leave for Type traits? In the end is the character an Undead Plant having both traits? Or do all of the undead traits vanish and are replaced by Plant traits? If my understanding is correct. Traits are retained unless replaced/superceded by a simlar ability. [b]Example:[/b] The Human Woodling/Half-Fey (Fey Type) becomes Spellwarped (becomes Aberration type). [u]Fey Traits[/u]: Low-light vision, Proficient with all simple weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry, Proficient with whatever type of armor that it is described as wearing as well as all lighter types, Fey eat-sleep-breathe [u]Aberration Traits[/u]: Darkvision 60', Proficient with its natural weapons, If generally humanoid in form proficient with all simple weapons and any weapon it is described as using, Proficient with whatever type of armor that it is described as wearing as well as all lighter types, Aberrations eat-sleep-breathe Now... Does the character loose its Low-Light Vision and gain Darkvision instead? Or does it retain its Low-Light Vision and gain Darkvision as well? Say the fey grants proficiency in short sword (pixie). Does it lose that proficiency when it becomes an aberration? Thanks for any and all help to undersatand how this works. [/QUOTE]
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