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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tharivious_Meliamne" data-source="post: 2558312">Many posts in a short amount of time, I'll make a few points pertaining to them, but as I have been away for the night, I was unable to post as the thread grew, so I'll make this one post count....Alright, first off, let me reiterrate this: I do not have a problem with people taking things 'off-site', it doesn't bother me.  Whatever people do off-site is their business, and their business only, and I don't have any problem with that.Second of all, I'd like to thank everyone for posting their opinions on these ( by which I mean this ) issues.  It doesn't matter to me whether or not anyone agrees or disagrees with my points of view, because they are just that, my opinions.  However, I will say that with issues that are clearly a  raw nerve as this one seems to be, it is a good start to open up a dialog, which is what has begun here.  The number of posts pertaining to it shows that it is an issue of concern, both for those who support my views, and for those who are against my views.  Now, for the responses to the posts.Overall > Everyone has made good points here, and I appreciate the time taken to post these responses.  As I said above, whether you agree or disagree with my words, is not as important as discussion, and I would like to thank each of you for adding your views to this discussion which has been very intelligently handled, and well written on everyone's part.JacksonTT > I agree, what is off-site, is off-site, see my above statement for my opinion on that.  I don't have a problem with all of the referrences to modern day items, that doesn't really bother me if the characters are wearing boxers or using hot-tubs, that's really irrelevant to me, although name brand beers might be a step too far on the modernization, but I won't make a big point of that.  And I am not holding most of the discussions against the group in question, but I do have to say that I have seen some very specific statements made that have been far more direct than a little referrence to going 'hot tubbing', and those instances are what I was speaking of, not the tamer moments.  And aside from the statements, the actions have certainly been present to show that this group has been involved in on-site activity that is questionable at best, and direct line crossing at worst.  Ssussunriyh > I also agree with you, the presence of what is often anywhere from six to twelve people involved in the same act can be overbearing, and that is another aspect of it.  There have been many times where I have gone into the tavern and seen no one in there except for the group in question, and several other people in the Emporium, and normally, yes, I do go to the other room, because that is simpler.Nevine > You are correct, the first four points were my main points, but as this one seems to have stricken a nerve, might as well discuss it.  I can't comment on whether or not this group tones things down when asked, or even leaves when asked, because of the simple fact that I don't ask such things, because I do respect their RPing ability.  I see no reason to upset someone elses storyline, and I didn't intend for that paragraph I wrote to result in this kind of a massive debate, I don't expect people to change just because a handful of people have a problem with things that they do.  As I said, I didn't intend to raise issues, I was merely stating an opinion.  As I said above, normally, I just walk away from the group in question and go to another room, it's much simpler that way, and that way, they can keep doing what they like to do, to each their own, but that's just me.Melynxt > Special thanks to you for noticing and speaking about something other than the fifth point, it's good to see that some of the rest of my words were noticed.  I know the situation you speak of in that part, and it's definately part of what I was speaking about.  As for your viewpoints on the infamous fifth point, very good points to mention.  As I said above, I don't have a huge problem with such minor aspects of modern life being brought in, that's nothing to worry about in my opinion, and honestly, the only times where that could be a problem would be as far as the setting rulings, but I'll leave that in the hands of those responsible for enforcing such matters.  As for just disregarding the prescence of what bothers you, as I said, many times, I just leave.Fenmarel > As I have said, I don't like to ask players to change, out of respect for them, I wouldn't want others to ask that I change the things that I do, so I treat others in kind, just a personal policy of mine.  As for using the '/ignore add' command, I'm not a big fan of that, because that really doesn't solve anything, I've used it maybe twice in the six months that I've been around, and on each of those occassions, I had to really think before using it.  Simply, that command doesn't solve these problems, it only creates more, because it causes a void, and beyond that, when people that you aren't ignoring are interecting with these individuals, it makes it difficult to follow what's on the screen.Rune > Good points and use of historical information, I appreciate that.  As for chilling out, I agree wholeheartedly, I was merely putting an opinion out for those who read this, and that was all it was intended to be, but as it seems, it has become a large scale debate in one night, and as such, I don't know if this will 'chill out' any time soon, or if this is just beginning, but I will stick to my points regardless of how long this lasts.  That's just the way I am about these things.So, long response being brought to an end, thank you all once more for your responses, and if you wish to continue this discussion, I will be more than happy to continue as well.~Tharivious Meliamne's player</blockquote>

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