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The 2024 Ranger is Actually Pretty Good (with numbers)
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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 9521778" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>I guess I phrased it in a confusing way, but I didn't actually add the AoE damage. I just listed it for comparison. That's why there are two numbers listed for the levels where I did the AoE damage. The first is AOE the second is single target, and I only included single target in the graph.</p><p></p><p>9: BM, round 1 Conjure Barrage: 67.6 (4 targets); BM round 2-4: 37.1 = 44.7 vs. FW: 29.6</p><p>9: BM, round 1: 28.1, round 2-4: 36.4 = 34.3 vs. FW: 29.6</p><p></p><p>So the first line is if you use Conjure Barrage against 4 targets on the first round which is 44.7 versus Treantmonk's Fey Wanderer DPS of 29.6. But the second line is single target, no AoE spells, and is 34.3 versus 29.6, which is still almost 5 points higher.</p><p></p><p>The point is that none of the big DPS leaders have anything close to the AoE damage that the Ranger can do. And their options for ranged damage is pretty limited. How many times have you started a battle and the Paladin or Fighter can only throw a couple of javelings for 1d6+Str damage? The ranger can totally blast every enemy in a 60' cone for 5d8 damage or at the very least fire a couple shots with a bow for 1d8+1d6+Dex damage.</p><p></p><p>This emphasis on focus fire is a little too extreme. Yes, in many cases it is a good idea to focus on one target and bring them down to reduce the amount of incoming damage. But if you have the Wizard drop a Fire Ball or Cone of Cold, and the Ranger open with Conjure Barage, the whole battle will be easier and the enemies will drop very quick after that.</p><p></p><p>Another misconception is that bringing down the boss is more important than taking out his guards. Sure the boss is the biggest threat, but if you have six guards beating on you, it is going to add up to a lot of damage. A couple of AoEs and a few hits to take out the guards allows you to focus on the boss without a lot of extra incoming damage.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and I included the Vengance Paladin to give some perspective, but it was the second highest DPR of all of Treantmonk's builds. So that is comparing my Ranger build to one of his best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 9521778, member: 31754"] I guess I phrased it in a confusing way, but I didn't actually add the AoE damage. I just listed it for comparison. That's why there are two numbers listed for the levels where I did the AoE damage. The first is AOE the second is single target, and I only included single target in the graph. 9: BM, round 1 Conjure Barrage: 67.6 (4 targets); BM round 2-4: 37.1 = 44.7 vs. FW: 29.6 9: BM, round 1: 28.1, round 2-4: 36.4 = 34.3 vs. FW: 29.6 So the first line is if you use Conjure Barrage against 4 targets on the first round which is 44.7 versus Treantmonk's Fey Wanderer DPS of 29.6. But the second line is single target, no AoE spells, and is 34.3 versus 29.6, which is still almost 5 points higher. The point is that none of the big DPS leaders have anything close to the AoE damage that the Ranger can do. And their options for ranged damage is pretty limited. How many times have you started a battle and the Paladin or Fighter can only throw a couple of javelings for 1d6+Str damage? The ranger can totally blast every enemy in a 60' cone for 5d8 damage or at the very least fire a couple shots with a bow for 1d8+1d6+Dex damage. This emphasis on focus fire is a little too extreme. Yes, in many cases it is a good idea to focus on one target and bring them down to reduce the amount of incoming damage. But if you have the Wizard drop a Fire Ball or Cone of Cold, and the Ranger open with Conjure Barage, the whole battle will be easier and the enemies will drop very quick after that. Another misconception is that bringing down the boss is more important than taking out his guards. Sure the boss is the biggest threat, but if you have six guards beating on you, it is going to add up to a lot of damage. A couple of AoEs and a few hits to take out the guards allows you to focus on the boss without a lot of extra incoming damage. Oh, and I included the Vengance Paladin to give some perspective, but it was the second highest DPR of all of Treantmonk's builds. So that is comparing my Ranger build to one of his best. [/QUOTE]
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