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The 2024 Ranger is Actually Pretty Good (with numbers)
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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9524269" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>I still think that giving rangers con saves instead of dex saves had been a great idea. </p><p></p><p>Probably starting with one fighter level, will be a great option. </p><p>Still having 14 dex. Still being able to swap into medium armor if stealth and speed is a priority, but otherwise wearing heavy armor. </p><p></p><p>Go with str 15 to 17, wis 14 to 16, dex 14 and con 12 and don't look back. </p><p></p><p>My favourite spread would be:</p><p></p><p>Str 15+2</p><p>Dex 14</p><p>Con 12</p><p>Int 10</p><p>Wis 13+1</p><p>Cha 8</p><p></p><p>Farmer background. </p><p></p><p>If you are ok with 15 Str and rather have more wisdom or con in the beginning, many other backgrounds are viable.</p><p></p><p>As a guide, starting with 16 wisdom and and str 15 still allows you to use the heaviest armor and then transition from shilelagh quarterstaff to a heavy weapon. Maybe a polearm.</p><p></p><p>Having two fighting styles does not hurt. Archery and defense style or even thrown weapon style for darts! does not hurt.</p><p>GWF with a great sword and HM and giant slayer is also great option. It adds close to 2 damage to each attack. And your bonus action is always open and you even do damage on a miss. And at level 5 you get GWM that adds another 3 damage on top of it. At that point a great axe is not a bad idea. </p><p></p><p>If you think only having a single attack at level 5 hurts too much, TWF is also possible. </p><p></p><p>And best thing: losing the ranger capstone is not terrible if you manage to get to level 20.</p><p></p><p>At 11, you get tireless as a semi capstone. Probably better than Hunter subclass ability. </p><p></p><p>At that point your best bet is probably raising fighter and either become eldritch knight for extra spell levels and great spells (take those that don't need int!) or battlemaster for more maneuvers. </p><p></p><p>You will probably be a great damage dealer. Single target and multi target. Fighter is such a good class to start with, 90% of your problems are solved by starting fighter 1 with an approproiate background.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 9524269, member: 59057"] I still think that giving rangers con saves instead of dex saves had been a great idea. Probably starting with one fighter level, will be a great option. Still having 14 dex. Still being able to swap into medium armor if stealth and speed is a priority, but otherwise wearing heavy armor. Go with str 15 to 17, wis 14 to 16, dex 14 and con 12 and don't look back. My favourite spread would be: Str 15+2 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 10 Wis 13+1 Cha 8 Farmer background. If you are ok with 15 Str and rather have more wisdom or con in the beginning, many other backgrounds are viable. As a guide, starting with 16 wisdom and and str 15 still allows you to use the heaviest armor and then transition from shilelagh quarterstaff to a heavy weapon. Maybe a polearm. Having two fighting styles does not hurt. Archery and defense style or even thrown weapon style for darts! does not hurt. GWF with a great sword and HM and giant slayer is also great option. It adds close to 2 damage to each attack. And your bonus action is always open and you even do damage on a miss. And at level 5 you get GWM that adds another 3 damage on top of it. At that point a great axe is not a bad idea. If you think only having a single attack at level 5 hurts too much, TWF is also possible. And best thing: losing the ranger capstone is not terrible if you manage to get to level 20. At 11, you get tireless as a semi capstone. Probably better than Hunter subclass ability. At that point your best bet is probably raising fighter and either become eldritch knight for extra spell levels and great spells (take those that don't need int!) or battlemaster for more maneuvers. You will probably be a great damage dealer. Single target and multi target. Fighter is such a good class to start with, 90% of your problems are solved by starting fighter 1 with an approproiate background. [/QUOTE]
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