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The 3.5 sai - a piercing and/or bludgeoning weapon?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 1047393" data-attributes="member: 308"><p>I don't have a specific cite, other than recollection and reading a lot. (I read a note regarding that fact awhile back, but couldn't locate the original site again.) Note I'm not declaring definitely that a sai was never a gardening tool, nor derived from one, I just find it suspect. I put forward my personal opinion that it was always a truncheon and any stories about it's origin to the contrary are fabrications. I could well be wrong and we'll never know. Let me re-emphasize it's just a theory. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, the peasants would've hardly been using sai in the first place, that was a noble's weapon in Ryukyu and it was probably imported from China. Very similar weapons appeared in China long before the sai appeared in Okinawa. There was a lot of cross-pollination of "kung fu" and the martial arts of Okinawa. A lot of the other weapons we associate with modern kobudo (nunchaku are derived from rice flails, etc) are indeed peasant weapons but I don't believe the sai is a peasant derived weapon. Nobles often carried them concealed in their kimono sleeves.</p><p></p><p>The sai is really effective against a staff, but the size and shape of the yoku lend themselves to catching a round object, like an arm or a staff, far better than a sword.</p><p></p><p>This site (<a href="http://www.karate.org.yu/Sai%20jutsu.htm" target="_blank">http://www.karate.org.yu/Sai jutsu.htm</a>) reflects what I think is a fairly accurate picture. Again - my opinion. The author makes a nice case for the sai's use in historical Ryukyu as a concealed weapon.</p><p></p><p>Greg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zhure, post: 1047393, member: 308"] I don't have a specific cite, other than recollection and reading a lot. (I read a note regarding that fact awhile back, but couldn't locate the original site again.) Note I'm not declaring definitely that a sai was never a gardening tool, nor derived from one, I just find it suspect. I put forward my personal opinion that it was always a truncheon and any stories about it's origin to the contrary are fabrications. I could well be wrong and we'll never know. Let me re-emphasize it's just a theory. :) [b][/B] Actually, the peasants would've hardly been using sai in the first place, that was a noble's weapon in Ryukyu and it was probably imported from China. Very similar weapons appeared in China long before the sai appeared in Okinawa. There was a lot of cross-pollination of "kung fu" and the martial arts of Okinawa. A lot of the other weapons we associate with modern kobudo (nunchaku are derived from rice flails, etc) are indeed peasant weapons but I don't believe the sai is a peasant derived weapon. Nobles often carried them concealed in their kimono sleeves. The sai is really effective against a staff, but the size and shape of the yoku lend themselves to catching a round object, like an arm or a staff, far better than a sword. This site ([url]http://www.karate.org.yu/Sai%20jutsu.htm[/url]) reflects what I think is a fairly accurate picture. Again - my opinion. The author makes a nice case for the sai's use in historical Ryukyu as a concealed weapon. Greg [/QUOTE]
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