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D&D 4E The 4e Mystery Race is going to be...

Puggins

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... well, who really knows for sure? But I've got a couple of guesses.

(1) Minotaurs

This is my pet guess. What little information we have lines up nicely. Minotaurs have this thing in D&D about being sailors (lining up with the fleet of the mystery race sailing in). They're a popular race from World of Warcraft. "A Fierce Minotaur Ranger" fits. If the race were as mundane as Orcs, Hobgoblins, Goblins or Kobolds they wouldn't be so coy about the whole thing. Neither the Forgotten Realms or Eberron would balk at including them as a race. Then again, neither is especially set up to handle them in numbers either, so even though I'm listing this as the top choice, I'm doing so more out of novelty than anything else.

My actual prediction would be:

(2) Orcs

No mention has been made of Half-Orcs yet. Why have Half-Orcs when full Orcs are even more fun? There's nothing especially wrong about them being sailors. They're also a playable race in World of Warcraft. "A fierce Orc Ranger" fits. The Forgotten Realms has just established a civilized nation of Orcs. Orcs in Eberron are remnants of a Druidic culture that battled an invasion from beyond during a previous age. In a sense, they're the keepers of nature. Everything just seems to line up well with them.

Then again, things line up fairly well for:

(3) Hobgoblins

Hobgoblins can be sailors. "A fierce Hobgoblin ranger" makes sense. They have both an ancient and emerging kingdom in Eberron. I can't recall the Forgotten Realms having an established homeland for them, but I could be wrong, and anyway they would integrate just fine. Only reason why I think Orcs are more likely to be the race is the convenience of the emerging Orc homeland in FR.

(4) Goblins

These could be a choice, yes, but I think we're definitely going to the second-tier here. They can be sailors. If you take the "Ooh, look, shiny!" statement literally (I don't- I'm betting it was meant to connote an attempted, witty distraction by the author, not a clue to the race), they make sense. But I don't think goblins have many players excited, and "fierce Goblin Ranger" makes sense, but nowhere near as much as the first three choices above.

(5) Kobolds

Other than their draconic nature (a definite plus, given the amount of draconic stuff published), they make less sense than Goblins. They don't even have any decent established homelands in either setting.

(6) Drow

"Fierce Drow Ranger?" Drow sailors? I don't think the Drow are going to make it. They'll be the selling point for PHB2, I'm betting. Both Eberron and Forgotten Realms figure them prominently, so they'll be added soon enough.


Two postscript comments:

#1 I wouldn't be disappointed with any of these races.

#2 Spare us the comments about how D&D is becoming World of Warcraft. I mentioned WoW with the orcs and minotaurs because WotC would naturally like to tap into some of the current trends in fantasy, and Orcs and Minotaurs both happen to be getting cast as heroes nowadays due in no small part to WoW. WotC borrowing from WoW (just like WoW borrowed from D&D in creating its universe) is natural and expected.
 

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I'm guessing its orcs as well. Theres been a push in several recent fantasy settinsgs (Warcraft, Eberron, Confrontation, etc) to cast orcs as the "noble savage" archtype. Orcs could be divided among those loyal to Gruumsh and those who follow other traditions.

Its important to note that there's no "strong guy" type race. Dwarves come the closest, but they have always been more "tough guy" than anything else. We have elves as "fast guy", eladrin as "magic guy", halflings as "sneaky guy" and the ever worthless half elves as "talky guy". Humans form the baseline.

Aside from orcs, in 3.5 we have goliaths, half orcs (again pointless and watered down compared to orcs) and then start moving into bigger ECL territory.

What class has the mystery race been associated with?

One thing's for sure... the mystery race had better not be another kind of :):):):)ing elf.
 

Puggins said:
(2) Orcs

No mention has been made of Half-Orcs yet. Why have Half-Orcs when full Orcs are even more fun? There's nothing especially wrong about them being sailors. They're also a playable race in World of Warcraft. "A fierce Orc Ranger" fits. The Forgotten Realms has just established a civilized nation of Orcs. Orcs in Eberron are remnants of a Druidic culture that battled an invasion from beyond during a previous age. In a sense, they're the keepers of nature. Everything just seems to line up well with them.
IMO, I think full blown orcs would be best. As I've mentioned in other threads, I think they should have been a warrior race originally created by demons. But while they retain their viciousness and aggression, some of them have shrugged off the yoke of their demonic masters and live by their own rules. I think this would be a cool way to tie the "default" orc creation to the new cosmology. FWIW, I hope tieflings become the diabolical equivalent of orcs, a race created/birthed by devils.

The only other race you mentioned that I would like to see as a PC race would be goblins. The others just don't do anything for me - especially hobgoblins, the "Roman legionnaire" take on them just doesn't appeal to me at all (I'd rather they just be big, stupid goblins :) ).
 




I'm inclined to say it's not hobgoblins or goblins because of the podcast on 4e monsters. One of the topics discussed was how the designers are trying to differentiate the different humanoids "monsters" that the PCs take on. They talked about how fighting Gnolls should feel different from fighting hobgoblins or goblins. This, to me, indicates that they are not going to be popping up in the PHB.
 


ehren37 said:
Aside from orcs, in 3.5 we have goliaths, half orcs (again pointless and watered down compared to orcs) and then start moving into bigger ECL territory.
I would love to see Goliaths in the PHB. Unlikely, though.

I agree, with the lack of mention of half-orcs, a full blown orc seems very possible.

I wish, instead of half-elves, they would implement some kind of halfbreed guidlines that couls be applied to orc, elf, dwarf, whatever. Then again, perhaps they do, and half-elves are the example... Hmm.
 
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