The Adventures of the Knights of Spellforge Keep

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Here's my take on it: the Knights needed the money? They were there when the dwarf was taking it. They had plenty of opportunity to take what they needed then.

They did not stop the dwarf. They did not tell him, "Sorry, you can't have that". They waited until he had it, they let him take it, and waited again until he'd hauled it a fair distance, and then took it from him.

In his sleep.

It was pretty rotten of them any way you look at it.
 

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Wee Jas said:
I'm not buying it. You love the contoversy. If he was so oppressed he'd be WAY more concerned (and grateful) to be getting out alive and way less concerned about the gems.
From just this, I can tell that there have not been many dwarves among the Knights. If there had been, Vek would have known better than to say such a thing.
 

Wee Jas said:
I'm not buying it. You love the contoversy.

It's true...Doc does love the controversy, but Seasong has a good point. If the Knights wanted the gems, they should have taken them from the get-go, not wait until the dwarf was sleeping. It was a very shady way for us to act... "wicked...tricksy...false!!"

Of course, I hadn't thought of the bliss that Doc would get out of the inner-party conflict... ;)
 
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I can see taking the money, especially if the party thought the dwarf might have taken the money and used it to create Ice Golems of his own. If he wasn't in a locked cell or at least under some kind of guard, then he was working for the dragon. He was only happy to leave when he thought he could get away with the gems and the party was going to kill Big A. At least that is how I percieved it from Doc's great write up.

Edit: And Yes Seasong is right. Every dwarf is always concerned with the gems. Gems and your life go hand in hand as a dwarf. Right along with Mithril and Adamantium.
 
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Oh, yeah, I set you up. Please. The stuffing-of-gems was a humorous little bit put into the text for the room in the MODULE. It doesn't make him evil- just greedy. The fact that he didn't stand up to the dragon doesn't make him evil- just cowardly. He was cowardly and greedy. Cowardice and greed would nicely describe what's required to steal from a sleeping dwarf that you happen to be protecting.

I'd have given an XP penalty, but really, they didn't do anything out of alignment or character. Plus, the wafer-thin justification would have been deafening instead of just... what it is... :D
 

Wheres Edge to chime in on this? I thought he was taking them from him all the time not just in his sleep.

Regardless, The dwarf wasn't any abused hostage. (He definately was role-played that way at least). I didn't take the gems from him personally but I don't dissaprove.

To me its like a underage kid picking up a six pack in a liquor store but crying when he gets to the counter and finds out he isn't leaving the store with it. You didn't really think you were going to get away with that did you?
 

Wee Jas said:
To me its like a underage kid picking up a six pack in a liquor store but crying when he gets to the counter and finds out he isn't leaving the store with it. You didn't really think you were going to get away with that did you?
Did I say "wafer-thin" justification? :D

By that metaphor, more accurately, he's like an adult looting a liquor store you're about to burn down.

Some kind of... illegal liquor store... that it'd be right and just to burn down, that is.
 
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Wee Jas said:
To me its like a underage kid picking up a six pack in a liquor store but crying when he gets to the counter and finds out he isn't leaving the store with it. You didn't really think you were going to get away with that did you?
Hey you! You darned kid! You're not allowed to do the stuff I do! I don't care if you're older than me!

And it would be more like: letting the underage kid buy the drinks, then tackling him in the parking lot. Because after you stood by and let him take the diamonds, with nary a word... yeah, he thought he was going to get away with it. After all, you didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with it, until you realized that you should have grabbed those gems yourself.

The message you gave to the dwarf was, more accurately, "Hey! You can't steal from the dragon! WE'RE stealing from the dragon!"
 

Dr Midnight said:
Vek said “He contacted me last night. The dragon says he won’t flee if the battle goes poorly for him. He’s laid a challenge to us to fight to the death.”

“With the safety off,” Jamison said softly.

Kizz said “You don’t sound too certain of our chances, Vek. Can we win this?”

“I don’t know.”

NEXT: White Hell
Sounds great, doc. See you in the white hell!


Ziona said:
As for this...it's hysterical! Even if Kizz would never do it, I might actually be caught laughing myself breathless from time to time IRL! :D
What? Is Kizz jealous? :p
 

Wee Jas said:
To me its like a underage kid picking up a six pack in a liquor store but crying when he gets to the counter and finds out he isn't leaving the store with it. You didn't really think you were going to get away with that did you?

Thank you again for reminding me of the advantages of living where I live. :D :D :D
 

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