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<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 9421472" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>One of the problems however, I feel should be clarified, is that while the Estate apparently has nabbed rights to the trademark, they do not have any rights to the Blackmoor setting, anymore than the Gygax Estate has rights to the Greyhawk settings or D&D. </p><p></p><p>The Estate has nabbed the trademark, and apparently WoTC felt it prudent to change the name of Blackmoor to Arn, but there's a lot up in the air. They don't appear to have IP rights, and a lot of this stuff was done with agreements with WoTC, along with (perhaps) Dave Arneson's approval. Note the press release doesn't say anything about legality. For all we know, this could be covered in another old contract. </p><p></p><p>I'm going to provide some links for folks. Like anything else, it's always easy to look at one press release and immediately take sides, but there's probably a more complex dynamic here:</p><p></p><p>Background on some of the rights: <a href="https://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?p=346112" target="_blank">[Blackmoor5e] Age of the Wolf to be released for free after 15 years! - The Piazza</a></p><p></p><p>Some thoughts on the trademarks from a few site: </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://odd74.proboards.com/thread/16045/blackmoor-trademark-claimed-arneson-estate[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://blackmoormystara.blogspot.com/2023/07/blackmoor-trademark-claimed-by-arneson.html[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Some additional background -- a few folks have found the people who are overseeing the estate might be a little too, shall we say, "aggressive", in their claims of ownership, opinions from folks who knew Dave back in the day.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/bad-actors-slandering-tonisborg/msg1259037/#msg1259037[/URL]</p><p></p><p>I don't know who's in the right, but I do believe that (a) people need to do enough independent research first before rushing to judgement, and (b) it's probably not a good idea for the fight to be done with press releases.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 9421472, member: 2732"] One of the problems however, I feel should be clarified, is that while the Estate apparently has nabbed rights to the trademark, they do not have any rights to the Blackmoor setting, anymore than the Gygax Estate has rights to the Greyhawk settings or D&D. The Estate has nabbed the trademark, and apparently WoTC felt it prudent to change the name of Blackmoor to Arn, but there's a lot up in the air. They don't appear to have IP rights, and a lot of this stuff was done with agreements with WoTC, along with (perhaps) Dave Arneson's approval. Note the press release doesn't say anything about legality. For all we know, this could be covered in another old contract. I'm going to provide some links for folks. Like anything else, it's always easy to look at one press release and immediately take sides, but there's probably a more complex dynamic here: Background on some of the rights: [URL="https://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?p=346112"][Blackmoor5e] Age of the Wolf to be released for free after 15 years! - The Piazza[/URL] Some thoughts on the trademarks from a few site: [URL unfurl="true"]https://odd74.proboards.com/thread/16045/blackmoor-trademark-claimed-arneson-estate[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://blackmoormystara.blogspot.com/2023/07/blackmoor-trademark-claimed-by-arneson.html[/URL] Some additional background -- a few folks have found the people who are overseeing the estate might be a little too, shall we say, "aggressive", in their claims of ownership, opinions from folks who knew Dave back in the day. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/bad-actors-slandering-tonisborg/msg1259037/#msg1259037[/URL] I don't know who's in the right, but I do believe that (a) people need to do enough independent research first before rushing to judgement, and (b) it's probably not a good idea for the fight to be done with press releases. [/QUOTE]
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