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<blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 6189587" data-attributes="member: 61026">The Bard is . . .It's a start toward a rewarding Bard class -- but only a start. I agree that a sample list of available musical instruments would be useful; previous editions mentioned some of them, such as drum, flute, harp, horn, lute, lyre, and woodwind in 4E; there was a &quot;yarting&quot; mentioned in 2E that the god Oghma played; and hand-bells or chimes might be good additions, or possibly even maracas and castanets. How about &quot;songblades?&quot; Too early yet? Few bards are going to enter melee wielding a lute. I think the 5E Bard could use something a little better than simple Leather at 1st Level. &quot;Light armor&quot; included Studded Leather and Chain Shirt in 3E.Also, Shields: 3E and 4E Bards got shield proficiency, though 2E Bards did not. The &quot;Bardic Performance&quot; feature is nice. I would like to see a few other such performances described; but Call to Battle and Inspire Competence are a good beginning. (I disregard Countercharm; I'm not sure why I do.) Cantrips? I'm OK with that, but I find it a little strange that the Bard gets Cantrips when the Paladin and the Ranger do not. (Perhaps that comes from the Power Sources in 4E: the Bard in 4E is Arcane, but the Paladin and Ranger are much more weapon-dependent. However, why does the Bard not get an attack cantrip? The Cleric and Mage both do. . . .)I think the Bard needs at least one more Ability Score Improvement or Feat. It's a long way from 4th to 10th level. &quot;Magical Secrets&quot; seems wasted. That's a career-capstone? I could see something else, such as &quot;Rock Star,&quot; or &quot;Poet Laureate,&quot; or &quot;Legend of the Stage&quot; as a good capstone. Maybe &quot;Magical Secrets&quot; could be broken up into little bits and scattered throughout the Bardic class progression table? Learn one Secret at 6th Level (only a Cantrip or 1st-level spell), another one at 9th Level (only a Cantrip or a 1st- or 2nd-level spell), etc.The Colleges need much more work. This is a start; but they've been at the Clerical Domains/Deities for months now, so the Bard is still far behind in terms of development. (I did expect that.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tuxgeo, post: 6189587, member: 61026"] [b]The Bard is . . .[/b] It's a start toward a rewarding Bard class -- but only a start. I agree that a sample list of available musical instruments would be useful; previous editions mentioned some of them, such as drum, flute, harp, horn, lute, lyre, and woodwind in 4E; there was a "yarting" mentioned in 2E that the god Oghma played; and hand-bells or chimes might be good additions, or possibly even maracas and castanets. How about "songblades?" Too early yet? Few bards are going to enter melee wielding a lute. I think the 5E Bard could use something a little better than simple Leather at 1st Level. "Light armor" included Studded Leather and Chain Shirt in 3E. Also, Shields: 3E and 4E Bards got shield proficiency, though 2E Bards did not. The "Bardic Performance" feature is nice. I would like to see a few other such performances described; but Call to Battle and Inspire Competence are a good beginning. (I disregard Countercharm; I'm not sure why I do.) Cantrips? I'm OK with that, but I find it a little strange that the Bard gets Cantrips when the Paladin and the Ranger do not. (Perhaps that comes from the Power Sources in 4E: the Bard in 4E is Arcane, but the Paladin and Ranger are much more weapon-dependent. However, why does the Bard not get an attack cantrip? The Cleric and Mage both do. . . .) I think the Bard needs at least one more Ability Score Improvement or Feat. It's a long way from 4th to 10th level. "Magical Secrets" seems wasted. That's a career-capstone? I could see something else, such as "Rock Star," or "Poet Laureate," or "Legend of the Stage" as a good capstone. Maybe "Magical Secrets" could be broken up into little bits and scattered throughout the Bardic class progression table? Learn one Secret at 6th Level (only a Cantrip or 1st-level spell), another one at 9th Level (only a Cantrip or a 1st- or 2nd-level spell), etc. The Colleges need much more work. This is a start; but they've been at the Clerical Domains/Deities for months now, so the Bard is still far behind in terms of development. (I did expect that.) [/QUOTE]

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