The Best & Worst of 3rd Edition: WotC Core Rules & Bestiaries (Winners Announced)

Give your opinion on each. If its “meh”, just move to the next.

  • Psionics Hanbook I LIKED

    Votes: 74 22.2%
  • Psionics Hanbook I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 135 40.4%
  • Manual of the Planes I LIKED

    Votes: 163 48.8%
  • Manual of the Planes I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 50 15.0%
  • Enemies and Allies I LIKED

    Votes: 21 6.3%
  • Enemies and Allies I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 109 32.6%
  • Oriental Adventures I LIKED

    Votes: 152 45.5%
  • Oriental Adventures I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 55 16.5%
  • Deities and Demigods I LIKED

    Votes: 81 24.3%
  • Deities and Demigods I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 124 37.1%
  • Epic Level Handbook I LIKED

    Votes: 67 20.1%
  • Epic Level Handbook I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 165 49.4%
  • Monster Manual II I LIKED

    Votes: 162 48.5%
  • Monster Manual II I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 69 20.7%
  • Book of Vile Darkness I LIKED

    Votes: 153 45.8%
  • Book of Vile Darkness I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 71 21.3%
  • Arms and Equipment Guide I LIKED

    Votes: 102 30.5%
  • Arms and Equipment Guide I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 93 27.8%
  • Fiend Folio I LIKED

    Votes: 172 51.5%
  • Fiend Folio I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 40 12.0%
  • Miniatures Handbook I LIKED

    Votes: 72 21.6%
  • Miniatures Handbook I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 107 32.0%
  • Book of Exalted Deeds I LIKED

    Votes: 105 31.4%
  • Book of Exalted Deeds I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 113 33.8%
  • Draconomicon I LIKED

    Votes: 205 61.4%
  • Draconomicon I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 38 11.4%
  • Unearthed Arcana I LIKED

    Votes: 239 71.6%
  • Unearthed Arcana I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 29 8.7%
  • Expanded Psionics Handbook I LIKED

    Votes: 172 51.5%
  • Expanded Psionics Handbook I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 60 18.0%
  • Monster Manual III I LIKED

    Votes: 158 47.3%
  • Monster Manual III I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 53 15.9%
  • Libris Mortis: The Book of Undead I LIKED

    Votes: 188 56.3%
  • Libris Mortis: The Book of Undead I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 37 11.1%
  • Lords of Madness: The Book of Aberrations I LIKED

    Votes: 187 56.0%
  • Lords of Madness: The Book of Aberrations I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 31 9.3%
  • Dungeon Master’s Guide II I LIKED

    Votes: 162 48.5%
  • Dungeon Master’s Guide II I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 55 16.5%
  • Weapons of Legacy I LIKED

    Votes: 54 16.2%
  • Weapons of Legacy I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 136 40.7%
  • Spell Compendium I LIKED

    Votes: 211 63.2%
  • Spell Compendium I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 35 10.5%
  • Tome of Magic: Pact, Shadow, and Truename Magic I LIKED

    Votes: 95 28.4%
  • Tome of Magic: Pact, Shadow, and Truename Magic I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 89 26.6%
  • Monster Manual IV I LIKED

    Votes: 83 24.9%
  • Monster Manual IV I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 94 28.1%
  • Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords I LIKED

    Votes: 132 39.5%
  • Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 82 24.6%
  • Dragon Magic I LIKED

    Votes: 65 19.5%
  • Dragon Magic I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 87 26.0%
  • Magic Item Compendium I LIKED

    Votes: 192 57.5%
  • Magic Item Compendium I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 39 11.7%
  • Monster Manual V I LIKED

    Votes: 105 31.4%
  • Monster Manual V I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 63 18.9%
  • Exemplars of Evil I LIKED

    Votes: 25 7.5%
  • Exemplars of Evil I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 67 20.1%
  • Rules Compendium I LIKED

    Votes: 92 27.5%
  • Rules Compendium I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 53 15.9%
  • Elder Evils I LIKED

    Votes: 39 11.7%
  • Elder Evils I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 49 14.7%
  • (out of order) Magic of Incarnum I LIKED

    Votes: 49 14.7%
  • (out of order) Magic of Incarnum I did NOT LIKE

    Votes: 117 35.0%

  • Poll closed .
Deset Gled said:
I'm amazed at how good the Magic Item Compendium is doing. One thing people always seem to hate on the Bo9S for is power creep, and the MIC is pretty much the embodiment of pure power creep.
Really? I guess I might have misinterpreted some things from MIC then...

I thought that with the introduction of Item Levels, that the power curve was hugely crimped, thanks to MIC. The items for xth level characters were hugely weak in comparison to some expectations from previous books.

Hmm... I might have got something wrong... I saw it as massively decreasing power.
 

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Psion said:
Most of the supplements I really liked polled much better than the much ballyhooed and venomously defended Book of 9 Swords. I feel vaguely vindicated.

Bo9S results on these polls could be most generously described as: mediocre.
 

Psion said:
Most of the supplements I really liked polled much better than the much ballyhooed and venomously defended Book of 9 Swords. I feel vaguely vindicated.

All of the books that I liked are doing better than B09S. Only Spell Compendium and MIC are doing better than the lowest rated of my favorites while Manual of the Planes and the Expanded Psionics Handbook are running roughly equal (give or take a percentage point or two)with the lowest rated of my favorites.
 

Deset Gled said:
I'm amazed at how good the Magic Item Compendium is doing. One thing people always seem to hate on the Bo9S for is power creep, and the MIC is pretty much the embodiment of pure power creep.

I found the MIC uninteresting which is an unusual reaction for me to a book on magic items.

I hate the Spell Compendium for the stealth errata, as many people have heard me complain about before, but I can understand why people love it for usefullness.

I found the Spell Compendium to be mediocore. It's convenient to have the spells and domains in one place, but two thirds of the spells would never see the light of day in any campaign that I run.
 

Unearthed Arcana is the winner

While the poll will be open, I am calling it.

Unearthed Arcana wins the core rules.

The top ten follows. First numbers is raw votes for, second is % that liked the product of those that expressed an opinion. You can see a pretty strong correlation.

Unearthed Arcana 275| 0.8899676
Spell Compendium 241| 0.8607143
Lords of Madness: ... 211| 0.8577236
Draconomicon 231| 0.8461538
Libris Mortis: ... 212| 0.8412698
Magic Item Compendium 214| 0.8136882
Fiend Folio 187| 0.7957447
Manual of the Planes 190| 0.7630522
Monster Manual III 178| 0.7385892
Expanded Psionics Handbook 186| 0.7294118

Dungeon Master’s Guide II, Oriental Adventures, and Monster Manual II also did well.

As for the worst, that would be Enemies and Allies, worst of the core rule and monster books.

The bottom ten, first number is dislikes, second % not liking of those that had an opinion. Less corelation here:

Enemies and Allies 131| 0.839744
Exemplars of Evil 74 | 0.72549
Weapons of Legacy 154 | 0.719626
Epic Level Handbook 189| 0.713208
Magic of Incarnum 132| 0.709677
Psionics Hanbook 152| 0.635983
Deities and Demigods 146| 0.621277
Miniatures Handbook 122| 0.589372
Elder Evils 55| 0.561224
Dragon Magic 92| 0.557576

Monster Manual IV, Book of Exalted Deeds, Tome of Magic, and the Arms and Equipment Guide also did poorly.

Thanks to all that voted. Round 2 to follow.
 
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