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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 4001719" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Which is, maybe, because the 2E stuff was written to be interesting and inspiring, while the 3E stuff was 80% written to be descriptive instead, which simply makes it read like a textbook with a few half-catchy sentences inbetween. That doesn't mean the 3E stuff was written by authors who don't care about the planes...just that the focus was different. If you compare the MotP 1E with the popularity of Planescape, you could reach the same conclusion, and would be as wrong about the motivations of the authors.</p><p></p><p>But if you think the "cosmology" of 4E is to be used as anything but a setting extension (which the Great Wheel at first was used for, too, before it evolved into <em>Planescape</em>), then you must have read some totally different preview articles. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> To me, the whole 4E planar stuff goes away even further from "cosmology" as in "system that describes how the outer planes work", and a lot closer to "setting extension" as in "part of the default campaign world of 4E that is made for adventurers to have encounters in". The cosmology part is, in my opinion, deliberately simplified in order to keep it in the background, while the accessibility is simplified in order to integrate the different locations into the setting a lot faster. And nobody says that, in 3-4 years, there won't be its own setting book hatching from the planar seeds that they put in the soil of the 4E core books.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 4001719, member: 2268"] Which is, maybe, because the 2E stuff was written to be interesting and inspiring, while the 3E stuff was 80% written to be descriptive instead, which simply makes it read like a textbook with a few half-catchy sentences inbetween. That doesn't mean the 3E stuff was written by authors who don't care about the planes...just that the focus was different. If you compare the MotP 1E with the popularity of Planescape, you could reach the same conclusion, and would be as wrong about the motivations of the authors. But if you think the "cosmology" of 4E is to be used as anything but a setting extension (which the Great Wheel at first was used for, too, before it evolved into [i]Planescape[/i]), then you must have read some totally different preview articles. :lol: To me, the whole 4E planar stuff goes away even further from "cosmology" as in "system that describes how the outer planes work", and a lot closer to "setting extension" as in "part of the default campaign world of 4E that is made for adventurers to have encounters in". The cosmology part is, in my opinion, deliberately simplified in order to keep it in the background, while the accessibility is simplified in order to integrate the different locations into the setting a lot faster. And nobody says that, in 3-4 years, there won't be its own setting book hatching from the planar seeds that they put in the soil of the 4E core books. [/QUOTE]
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