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<blockquote data-quote="Khairn" data-source="post: 4002117" data-attributes="member: 20153"><p>The Blood War has been a "behind the scenes" element of my campaigns for years, and IMHO is an iconic cornerstone of the outer planes of D&D that I knew and enjoyed. Eliminating it is just another classic "D&Disms" (sacred cows?) that the 4E designers feel do not fit in their vision of the game. Compared to some of the other classic fluff that has been tossed out, this one is only a minor annoyance for me. But I certainly do understand why some players will be upset over it being dumped.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that a lot of WotC's justifications do seem to come across that way. Personally I believe that stating how wonderful a new element / rule / piece of fluff is, by trying to explain how the old one was badwrongfun is the wrong approach to take. Particularly when many players don't see any significant problems with the old one. Unfortunately a lot of the new 4E rules and features seem to be introduced that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khairn, post: 4002117, member: 20153"] The Blood War has been a "behind the scenes" element of my campaigns for years, and IMHO is an iconic cornerstone of the outer planes of D&D that I knew and enjoyed. Eliminating it is just another classic "D&Disms" (sacred cows?) that the 4E designers feel do not fit in their vision of the game. Compared to some of the other classic fluff that has been tossed out, this one is only a minor annoyance for me. But I certainly do understand why some players will be upset over it being dumped. I agree that a lot of WotC's justifications do seem to come across that way. Personally I believe that stating how wonderful a new element / rule / piece of fluff is, by trying to explain how the old one was badwrongfun is the wrong approach to take. Particularly when many players don't see any significant problems with the old one. Unfortunately a lot of the new 4E rules and features seem to be introduced that way. [/QUOTE]
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