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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 3627146" data-attributes="member: 48965">Honestly, I think I get where he's coming from.&nbsp; It's not the actual &quot;leveling up&quot; but the minutae that must be checked and gone over...save bonuses, new class abilities, spending of skill points, selection of feats, checking pre-requisites, purchasing of equipment, selection of spells, check for synergy bonuses, etc.(all at once at almost every level.)I think a way to compare it is like this...In Exalted(or Stormbringer for another example) the first time you create a character, it's very front loaded...You have to make alot of choices and selections(and it can take a long time).&nbsp; However after that it's&nbsp; complexity when buying things with XP drops drastically(very rarely will you have enough XP to change alot of things at once.&nbsp; In D&amp;D it's the reverse.&nbsp; Character creation starts (at level 1) simpler than Exalted, but each increase in level is a blanket of numerous changes and decisions that must be performed all at once...and it seems like it gets more complicated as level increases. Now if all you've ever played is D&amp;D then you have nothing to compare it to, but having played different game systems I definitely see where leveling up could be dreaded as a chore in paperwork.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 3627146, member: 48965"] Honestly, I think I get where he's coming from. It's not the actual "leveling up" but the minutae that must be checked and gone over...save bonuses, new class abilities, spending of skill points, selection of feats, checking pre-requisites, purchasing of equipment, selection of spells, check for synergy bonuses, etc.(all at once at almost every level.) I think a way to compare it is like this...In Exalted(or Stormbringer for another example) the first time you create a character, it's very front loaded...You have to make alot of choices and selections(and it can take a long time). However after that it's complexity when buying things with XP drops drastically(very rarely will you have enough XP to change alot of things at once. In D&D it's the reverse. Character creation starts (at level 1) simpler than Exalted, but each increase in level is a blanket of numerous changes and decisions that must be performed all at once...and it seems like it gets more complicated as level increases. Now if all you've ever played is D&D then you have nothing to compare it to, but having played different game systems I definitely see where leveling up could be dreaded as a chore in paperwork. [/QUOTE]

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