The Chronicles of Narcissist

[Kramodlog]

I'll post this, at the risk of Godwinning the thread. It has been pointed out that Trump is ticking an alarming number of boxes on Dr. Lawrence Britt's Fascist checklist:

http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

Fascism is plastic, syncretic and opportunistic. Very hard to have definite list.

Here is how Umberto Eco defines it in 14 points too. http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

I think the defining trait is radical nationalism and then you see if other points match.

 

[Kramodlog]

...unless the GOP candidate loses the 2016 election, of course.*

And if he/she does, I wonder if the post-election autopsy will have them claiming they lost because the candidate STILL wasn't conservative enough. You know, like the last 2 times.

If the GOP loses a third presidential election in a row, the schism that some in GOP leadership have been talking about this year may well become reality.




* I'm thinking they will, and if the nominee is one of the current front four, the word "spectacularly" will be part of the phrase.

It remains to be seen is Trump does have a legay, but if he wins many primaries, a more gifted politicians could follow in his foot steps. Heck, Cruz is doing that.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Sort of. Cruz's political skill seems to be more in evidence with the general public than with those closer to him.

The thing is, he generates nearly universal dislike among those he works with- not just fellow congressmen, but other former Supreme Court clerks and his colleagues from the Bush admin.

He already finds it very difficult to get things done his way in the legislature; it might be even moreso if he gets elected to a higher position.

 

[Mallus]

I just want to give a quick shout-out to the Philadelphia Daily News going full-Godwin on their front page. If you haven't seen the coverage of it, it's a photo of Trump with his arm coincidentally extended Nazi salute-style with the caption "The New Furor". Makes me sad we get the Inquirer at the office.

Also props to Mayor Mike Nutter, for calling The Donald a name I can't print here, while at an press event with interfaith religious leaders (he immediately apologized to them for his language -- which is a totally not-Philadelphia thing to do).

edit: I'm still (mostly) amused by this travesty. Trump can't win. Probably not even the nomination (if the GOP is lucky). Definitely not the Presidency (a job I'm certain he *does not want*). In the end, his success this campaign season is providing the Republicans a valuable service: identifying the %15 to %20 of their base that they need to jettison/alienate/send to the cornfield if they want to survive as a national party.

 

[Ryujin]

I just want to give a quick shout-out to the Philadelphia Daily News going full-Godwin on their front page. If you haven't seen the coverage of it, it's a photo of Trump with his arm coincidentally extended Nazi salute-style with the caption "The New Furor". Makes me sad we get the Inquirer at the office.

Also props to Mayor Mike Nutter, for calling The Donald a name I can't print here, while at an press event with interfaith religious leaders (he immediately apologized to them for his language -- which is a totally not-Philadelphia thing to do).

edit: I'm still (mostly) amused by this travesty. Trump can't win. Probably not even the nomination (if the GOP is lucky). Definitely not the Presidency (a job I'm certain he *does not want*). In the end, his success this campaign season is providing the Republicans a valuable service: identifying the %15 to %20 of their base that they need to jettison/alienate/send to the cornfield if they want to survive as a national party.

When the popular vote seems to go a few points either way of 50/50 every American election no party is going to walk away from any percentage of their base, no matter how abhorrent.

 

[Istbor]

I would not use such an absolute. While I agree that I doubt they will willingly part with any of their member base as a result of this campaign, there are likely limits, that if reached, they would have no other choice.

Edited for grammatical corrections.

 

[Kramodlog]

The Trump bakers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ble-main_trumpsupporters-135pm:homepage/story

 

[Istbor]

Pretty disheartening stuff right there.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Astounding disconnect from actual reality...but not a surprise.

I've noted time and time again how many on the Right talk about a lack of anti-extremist demonstrations by Muslims, how progressives and moderate imams aren't speaking out more or issuing fatwas against extremists, or how Muslim countries don't prosecute terrorists.

Thing is, I have a file on my computer with links showing such demonstrations around the world, a list of fatwas against extremists, and articles about how countries like Indonesia (biggest Muslim country on the planet) are convicting terrorist all the time.

The problem? News coverage of such things is spotty and rarely "front page." Or, in the case of Trump supporters like those in that last link- an invincible ignorance that makes them discount the source to deny the reality of the reports.

 

[Ryujin]

Astounding disconnect from actual reality...but not a surprise.

I've noted time and time again how many on the Right talk about a lack of anti-extremist demonstrations by Muslims, how progressives and moderate imams aren't speaking out more or issuing fatwas against extremists, or how Muslim countries don't prosecute terrorists.

Thing is, I have a file on my computer with links showing such demonstrations around the world, a list of fatwas against extremists, and articles about how countries like Indonesia (biggest Muslim country on the planet) are convicting terrorist all the time.

The problem? News coverage of such things is spotty and rarely "front page." Or, in the case of Trump supporters like those in that last link- an invincible ignorance that makes them discount the source to deny the reality of the reports.

And it certainly doesn't help when "media outlets" like Fox News spout patent falsehoods as Gospel, get called on it, and that either admit to it and go right back to repeating the same lies, or double-down and say that it's truth a la Trump.

"Is this the right room for an argument?"

"I've told you once."