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<blockquote data-quote="Nergal Pendragon" data-source="post: 6510238" data-attributes="member: 6777649"><p>You set the goalposts. I was merely playing them.</p><p></p><p>In this case, you still run across one underlying weakness: For the most part, no sorcerer is ever going to fully know that an elemental resistance is going to be actually useful until after it's proven such. For example, take our example of a red/blue dragon... what happens if he encounters fire damage only twice in his life? He used a racial slot on something that he doesn't face frequently enough for it to ultimately be a worthy outcome. It's still a good idea on average based on the monsters in the MM and the number of fire spells, but overall it still is not something that will be known to be needed until after it has proven so; until then, they are merely playing the odds that it will come up.</p><p></p><p>And, honestly, I was kinda waiting for you to turn my own argument against me and point that out. I would have had to concede.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, no, that's not my argument. My argument is about taking resources from offensive power to use on defensive purposes for those for whom offensive power is rated as higher. That is not arguing that defensive power should not be used; if it was, the double dragon choice wouldn't be made in the first place. After all, why grab a race for a defensive ability that covers what a class can do when you can grab another race that gives you more offensive power in that class?</p><p></p><p>Thus, the idea isn't to eliminate defensive options; it's to reduce the need to spend resources on them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did address it. Let me quote my answer yet again:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Does that make it clearer?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nergal Pendragon, post: 6510238, member: 6777649"] You set the goalposts. I was merely playing them. In this case, you still run across one underlying weakness: For the most part, no sorcerer is ever going to fully know that an elemental resistance is going to be actually useful until after it's proven such. For example, take our example of a red/blue dragon... what happens if he encounters fire damage only twice in his life? He used a racial slot on something that he doesn't face frequently enough for it to ultimately be a worthy outcome. It's still a good idea on average based on the monsters in the MM and the number of fire spells, but overall it still is not something that will be known to be needed until after it has proven so; until then, they are merely playing the odds that it will come up. And, honestly, I was kinda waiting for you to turn my own argument against me and point that out. I would have had to concede. Actually, no, that's not my argument. My argument is about taking resources from offensive power to use on defensive purposes for those for whom offensive power is rated as higher. That is not arguing that defensive power should not be used; if it was, the double dragon choice wouldn't be made in the first place. After all, why grab a race for a defensive ability that covers what a class can do when you can grab another race that gives you more offensive power in that class? Thus, the idea isn't to eliminate defensive options; it's to reduce the need to spend resources on them. I did address it. Let me quote my answer yet again: Does that make it clearer? [/QUOTE]
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