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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thurmas" data-source="post: 7224827" data-attributes="member: 6866167">I've always thought the rapier was fine for where it was damage wise. I think the design mistake was not taking all the martial weapon damages one scale further. Something like:Rapier, Scimitar 1d8 (Finesse weapons)Longsword, warhammer, flail, etc 1d10/1d12 versatilePolearms 2d6 (Anything with 2 handed and reach)Greatsword, Great Axe, Maul 2d8 (2 Handed Heavy weapons)I'd never really thought about it but I guess you could throw 2 handed finesse weapons at 1d12 or 2d6, but still less then a normal strength based 2 handed weapon.Finesse weapon 1d8/1d10 versatileFinesse Polearm 1d102 handed Finesse weapon 2d6My whole point here is, if the scale of weapon damage went one level higher, to 2d8, you have a greater range of damage options for weapons. It gives you the ability to easily scale finesse weapons by allowing them to be 1 damage dice less then a strength based equivilant and still maintain an edge over simple weapon damage.Also, the rapier should be a light weapon. You should be able to hold a dagger in your offhand.Instead, I would say the two weapon fighting should only require a light weapon in the offhand.</blockquote>