The Defenders (trailer)

Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
Smells like Teen Spirit? Is nothing sacred?

Anyway, looks good. Better than the mess Luke Cage and Iron Fist was. Hopefully they have a plot for this one and resolve some stuff.

[video=youtube;4h3m7B4v6Zc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3m7B4v6Zc[/video]
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
That looks fantastic. Loved DD1, and first half of DD2, loved JJ, loved first half of LC, thought IF was so-so. Combined, I think I'll love it.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Smells like Teen Spirit? Is nothing sacred?

Anyway, looks good. Better than the mess Luke Cage and Iron Fist was. Hopefully they have a plot for this one and resolve some stuff.

[video=youtube;4h3m7B4v6Zc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3m7B4v6Zc[/video]

IMO, Luke Cage was the strongest of the set, start to finish. Yes, the first half was better than the second half in some ways, but Shades more than made up for the loss of Cottonmouth, imo. I just wasn't nearly as impressed with Diamondback as the writers seemed to be. I loved when he asked Shades if he had forgotten who he was talking to, and Shades was like, "have you?"


But yeah the defenders should be good, in spite of the fact that Iron Fist was...meh.
 

I loved Cottonmouth...he was a far more compelling villain than Diamondback. In fact, that's what made the first season of Daredevil and Jessica Jones so interesting for me; the villains. Vincent D'Onofrio and David Tennant were superb as Kingpin and Kilgrave. Daredevil season 2 didn't really have one, and while I greatly enjoyed Madam Gau in Iron Fist, even her strengths could not rescue the series from poor writing.

Sigourney Weaver's villain looks to be as interesting as Kingpin and Kilgrave, so I actually am really looking forward to this series.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I like the set up for Jessica and Matt (and Misty) and then Claire bringing in Luke as Comic Relief, the skill sets for those three compliment each other and we know they are credible combatants in the war for New York City

sadly Iron Fist is kinda superfluous ;)

wasn't keen on Electra the first time round, but hopefully as a lieutenant for Sigourney Weaver she works better, I do hope Kingpin shows up too.

and yes other than Diamondback Luke Cage had the best characters and was the most stylish, Kilgrave and Kingpin have been the outstanding villains
 

I just hope Daredevil actually gets into his damn costume at some point. I want to watch a superhero team-up show with freakin' Daredevil not the adventures of Matt Murdock the ninja lawyer and friends...
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I like the set up for Jessica and Matt (and Misty) and then Claire bringing in Luke as Comic Relief, the skill sets for those three compliment each other and we know they are credible combatants in the war for New York City

sadly Iron Fist is kinda superfluous ;)

wasn't keen on Electra the first time round, but hopefully as a lieutenant for Sigourney Weaver she works better, I do hope Kingpin shows up too.

and yes other than Diamondback Luke Cage had the best characters and was the most stylish, Kilgrave and Kingpin have been the outstanding villains

This Iron Fist has been disappointing thus far. He should be funny, kinda a dork, but wise, and believable as an extremely well trained martial artist. And he just isn't any of those, IMO.

Still, the interaction between him and the other characters shows some sliver of potential in the trailer. I hope he does some damn training so he actually looks and carries himself like he knows what a kata is.

Also, Luke Cage was one of the best seasons of tv I've watched in at least a few years. Especially the use of music. I've never seen a show do that anywhere near as well as they did in Luke Cage. And sadly, Diamondback was kinda uninspiring, but I think he was the only character in the whole season who was anything less than exactly on point.

I do hope that Misty isn't just there to intro Jessica Jones and accidentally introduce her to Matt, though. Also, hopefully Colleen Wing shows up again in Defenders.
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
Does this mean I have to actually watch Iron Fist? (I have only seen one episode of Luke Cage, but I am happy enough to finish it when it is necessary for viewing this.)
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Does this mean I have to actually watch Iron Fist? (I have only seen one episode of Luke Cage, but I am happy enough to finish it when it is necessary for viewing this.)
Probably not, it looks like Defenders is mainly spinning off from the Daredevil 2 'Electra/Hand' storyline and there's nothing in Iron Fist that changes that much.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Probably not, it looks like Defenders is mainly spinning off from the Daredevil 2 'Electra/Hand' storyline and there's nothing in Iron Fist that changes that much.

Ugh. That second half of DD2 was the weakest segment of all of the shows for me. I loved the Punisher stuff though.
 


Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Ugh. That second half of DD2 was the weakest segment of all of the shows for me. I loved the Punisher stuff though.

yeah I wasn't too keen on Electra either, but I'm hoping that the character interactions and Sigourney Weaver will make up for any Electra-based drag on the story
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
Well so far each Marvel series has been worse than the previous one so I lack high hopes unfortunately. Love DD, liked JJ, LC was just OK, and IF I haven't been able to finish. Villains were awful in LC and IF, actually IF was pretty awful all in all himself. I'm sure I'll give this a shot since I'm an old school comic nut.
 

Derren

Hero
I am disappointed that the movies have so few influences onto the series, namely the Sokovia Accords. Having several superhumans running around smashing stuff should not happen any more. Shield would be all over them by now, especially after how public Luke was with his invulnerability.

As for IF, I wonder how he will fit in, considering that he is still rich. It will probably be ignored.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I am disappointed that the movies have so few influences onto the series, namely the Sokovia Accords. Having several superhumans running around smashing stuff should not happen any more. Shield would be all over them by now, especially after how public Luke was with his invulnerability.

As for IF, I wonder how he will fit in, considering that he is still rich. It will probably be ignored.

Do we know SHIELD wasn't involved but just unseen? The Gang War in Hells Kitchen was referenced in AoS but really there's nothing to indicate that Matt is anything other than a highly trained vigilante Martial Artist. JJ was low key about her ability and until the big fight Luke was actively avoiding the police - so maybe he was avoiding SHIELD too (afterall Coulson & co. couldn't find Daisy even when they actively were looking for her)

Also with the Big Supers battling on an International Scale and Inhumans proliferating I suspect that SHIELD is very busy and street vigilantes while monitored might not be the focus of attention. It seems that Coulsons priority is 1) Recovery of Chitauri tech and 2) Monitoring of Inhumans - so perhaps DD, Luke and JJ just aren't persons of interest to that Team in particular.

That doesn't mean that another SHIELD Team isn't monitoring the vigilantes of New York but hasn't been featured on screen, and in fact are we sure that SHEILD wasn't amongst the Police and other Authorities that arrested Luke and Diamondback or even JJ? - btw what happened to Kilgraves body?

SHIELD's suppose to be a super secret agency,so I'm not too fussed when they aren't overtly mention in the Netflix shows. What does bug me though is that the Hulk-Abomination Rampage through Harlem seems to be entirely forgotten- did SHIELD mindwipe everyone?
 
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