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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5465884" data-attributes="member: 71571">Placing shrouds is an action.  The dominated creature can take no actions outside of the one the dominator chooses for him.It absolutely is the PC attacking.  The monster is choosing the action, but it is the PC that is attacking for all purposes within the rules.  At-will powers that are restricted to ally/enemy status still work the same.  Leader powers that give bonuses to allies won't give bonuses to the dominating monster, and powers that assign penalties to enemies won't assign penalties to dominating monster's enemies."Dominated", like a million other things in 4e, just does NOT mean the same thing it did in 3rd edition, and I think that's the problem.  Dominated in 3rd edition meant a full and total control over that character in every single way, and generally for an extended period of time.  It COULD turn enemies into allies, and sometimes permanently.4th edition 'dominated' is not total, applies to a single action per round, and goes away in a matter of a few seconds in game time, at the absolute worst case scenario, five minutes later.  That's not enough of an effect NOR duration to warrant it a complete change in loyalties of the character.Narratively, the character still has the ability to make some small decisions, particularily if he is granted choices outside of his turn structure.  He can still choose to make bonus saving throws if he gets those.  He's by no means helplessly under the control of the dominator.  He can still 'fight it' and probably is growling in sentance fragments 'GET OUT OF MY HEAD DON'T MAKE ME ATTACK MY FRIENDS.'  From the PHB update:In spite of this condition, the creature’s allies remain its allies, and its enemies remain its enemies. (Thus, if the dominator makes the creature attack one of its allies, it does not attack an ally of the dominator.) If the dominator tries to force the creature to throw itself into a pit or move into some other form of hindering terrain, the creature gets a saving throw to avoid entering the terrainFrom a RAW standpoint, there is no debate.  The question is answered directly.</blockquote>

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