The dragon ran into a wall!
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By "tangible" I mean that it is a plane of force that cannot be passed through (unless you have a really good bonus to Escape Artist!), deflects objects thrown at it, etc, just like a wall.Blindsight can detect obstacles, and so it can detect a wall of force.
As for the question about painting and spider climbing, there's no "official" answer that I'm aware of, but I'll offer my thoughts. A wall of force cannot be affected by any physical effect. If you dab paint onto one, the paint slides right down to the ground and pools there. If you cast spider climb, you still can't climb it, because you can't interact with it. It's not "real" in every sense of the world. It's solidity without mass.
Blindsight (that works from hearing/sonar/radar/similar...but not smell) can detect it because physical forces and energies can still reflect off of the wall. You can get echoes from it in the same way that if you throw a rock at a wall of force, it's gonna bounce off. And, when it bounces off, it does so without losing any of its energy to the wall...in an apparent violation of physical law. Thus, it doesn't really "interact" with the wall in a thermodynamic sense. There's no imparting of momentum or heat to it in the rebound.
In fact, from that, one would speculate that a wall of force, being a perfect reflector for things other than visible spectrum light, would be far MORE discernable to blindsight than most barriers!
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I spend way too much time thinking about this kind of thing.
As for the question about painting and spider climbing, there's no "official" answer that I'm aware of, but I'll offer my thoughts. A wall of force cannot be affected by any physical effect. If you dab paint onto one, the paint slides right down to the ground and pools there. If you cast spider climb, you still can't climb it, because you can't interact with it. It's not "real" in every sense of the world. It's solidity without mass.
Blindsight (that works from hearing/sonar/radar/similar...but not smell) can detect it because physical forces and energies can still reflect off of the wall. You can get echoes from it in the same way that if you throw a rock at a wall of force, it's gonna bounce off. And, when it bounces off, it does so without losing any of its energy to the wall...in an apparent violation of physical law. Thus, it doesn't really "interact" with the wall in a thermodynamic sense. There's no imparting of momentum or heat to it in the rebound.
In fact, from that, one would speculate that a wall of force, being a perfect reflector for things other than visible spectrum light, would be far MORE discernable to blindsight than most barriers!
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I spend way too much time thinking about this kind of thing.
I don't know.
I mean, can you hear through it? Would it disrupt soundwaves? If not, then the ecolocation of a bat wouldn't come back as a 'Wall'.
It could be a solidifying of molecules, or something, and although not 'tangible' in the sense that it can't be painted or spiderclimbed (And yes, the Sage did rule it cannot but then that's the Sage so YMMV), it could be like a 'solid' fog. So ecolocation could recieve a distoration, like there's a fog bank there. Like there's solid particles between the air molecules, forming a 'Net' of force, if you will.
The reason I ask is because a player has a bat familiar, and it just seems to get So much in the way of my plans. Illusions? Invisibility? Nope.
And, Ky, what happened to your Pimpiness? I miss the pimpiness.
I mean, can you hear through it? Would it disrupt soundwaves? If not, then the ecolocation of a bat wouldn't come back as a 'Wall'.
It could be a solidifying of molecules, or something, and although not 'tangible' in the sense that it can't be painted or spiderclimbed (And yes, the Sage did rule it cannot but then that's the Sage so YMMV), it could be like a 'solid' fog. So ecolocation could recieve a distoration, like there's a fog bank there. Like there's solid particles between the air molecules, forming a 'Net' of force, if you will.
The reason I ask is because a player has a bat familiar, and it just seems to get So much in the way of my plans. Illusions? Invisibility? Nope.
And, Ky, what happened to your Pimpiness? I miss the pimpiness.
kreynolds
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Xarlen said:
If it was a sonic breath weapon, yes.
Xarlen said:
I don't believe the intent of the spell is to stop soundwaves, but it would stop sonic based attacks that originate from the other side of the wall than you.
This is one of those, "it's magic" things.
Xarlen said:And, Ky, what happened to your Pimpiness? I miss the pimpiness.
I dumped it. I was noticing strange reactions from a few posters.
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