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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9050356" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>And thank y'all for demonstrating why players should discuss these, and other spells, with their DMs before selecting them as there is a wide spectrum on how they might be interpreted, and a wide approach on how useful they are allowed to be. </p><p></p><p>I am amongst the most permissive DMs I have ever met, and I've never regreted it - both from a perspective of my enjoyment, and from the perspective of creating a great game that is fun for my players. New players in my game rarely take these cantrips - but when they see an experienced player using these, or other cantrips, creatively, they tend to rework their PCs to stop taking just the offensive cantrips.</p><p></p><p>Edit: One more bonus restriction on shape water that caught me off guard - a DM ruling that you couldn't use it to freeze water from natural sources because, "There are microscopic creatures living in all natural water.... it is intended to freeze clean water you use for drinks and stuff." I was not a fan of that ruling...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9050356, member: 2629"] And thank y'all for demonstrating why players should discuss these, and other spells, with their DMs before selecting them as there is a wide spectrum on how they might be interpreted, and a wide approach on how useful they are allowed to be. I am amongst the most permissive DMs I have ever met, and I've never regreted it - both from a perspective of my enjoyment, and from the perspective of creating a great game that is fun for my players. New players in my game rarely take these cantrips - but when they see an experienced player using these, or other cantrips, creatively, they tend to rework their PCs to stop taking just the offensive cantrips. Edit: One more bonus restriction on shape water that caught me off guard - a DM ruling that you couldn't use it to freeze water from natural sources because, "There are microscopic creatures living in all natural water.... it is intended to freeze clean water you use for drinks and stuff." I was not a fan of that ruling... [/QUOTE]
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