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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Capricia" data-source="post: 6342792" data-attributes="member: 6777135">So dungeons and dragons have an essence, and it's what you say it is, and you're right because people agree with you.  That's gonna be rocky.  Most of your points have nothing to do with anything, so just going to address the relevant ones.So for you, the goal of magic is that it be science.  Anything that feels mysterious or mystical is against the very essenceof DnD.Yes, the action movies I've seen are all very lowkey.  Things like Kung Fu Hustle, Thor, The Matrix, Beowulf (that computer generated version), Man of Steel, or the highest grossing action movie of all time, The Avengers.Oh boy.  Wow.  This makes no sense.  If one boy playing in the back yard said "I cast Dominate Person on you! Now you gotta eat a dog turd!" do you think the other boy would say "Haha, okay!" Do you think that the boys would be satisfied if one of them was always saying "I magicaled it with my potter wand! I win!" and kept shouting about it till he was blue in the face? No way, it's obnoxious.  Do you think a boy playing pretend would think that because he can jump 4 feet, the hero he's playing can only jump 4? That because he's using a stick, his hero couldn't use a giant's 20-foot mace? Childhood imagination does NOT have these arbitrary restrictions you're trying to impose on it.It's possible to have fun in a lot of ways.  Breaking news there.And the circular logic is back where it started.  Wizards making other players feel trivial outside of combat--and usually within it--is just how DnD is supposed to FEEEEEEL.  DnD must cater to its oldest--ie, the 3e fans who started playing in 2000--and trying to fix its glaring, frankly embarrassing problems would absolutely ruin the magic of the game.  Because it's impossible to have fun while pretending you're a hero like Beowulf.apparently capricia wants a ban for attacking someone else. OK then - Plane Sailing, ENWorld Admin</blockquote>

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